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How to work with imported midi?

 
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tombuur
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: How to work with imported midi? Reply with quote

Let's say I want to import a midi drumming pattern, maybe even the midi drumtrack from a complete song. How do I go about this?

I can import a basic drum pattern into "verse" and then I found (by chance) that I have to use "Import" as the style, otherwise the style will just override my imported midi. I can finally add a drummer to my imported midi pattern for some variation.

However, I find that JS2 follows my midi pattern very strictly, not varying very much. In some situations this may be what I want. But what if I wanted JS2 to add an extra kick drum here and there, an occasional extra snare note or change the hihat a little?

I can't figure out how to do this. Ideally I would want the imported midi pattern to play. Then I would like a drummer model with some sliders to increase or even simplify complexity of various kit parts, using the imported midi as the base for it all.

Is there some way I can do this? Have I missed something?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: How to work with imported midi? Reply with quote

tombuur wrote:
I can import a basic drum pattern into "verse" and then I found (by chance) that I have to use "Import" as the style, otherwise the style will just override my imported midi. I can finally add a drummer to my imported midi pattern for some variation.

Where do you load the MIDI file? Using the Song sheet > Part menu > Import option or using the load option at the top of the Brain that will appear as soon as you have selected the Import style? I think you've used the first option and maybe you need the second option to get the Brain to work on your patterns.
I have to say though that I haven't imported anything longer than 1 bar myself, so I don't know how long the midi files can be when you import them using the Brain option. And I also haven't used that import option in the song sheet menu up to now, so... why do I even answer this question if I don't know for sure... Shocked Razz But you might just give it a try! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the import style and load the midi at the top of the brain myself. Once you load a drummer, check the "accents" tab in the brain, that's where all the variations are controlled from. Start moving the sliders to the right and pretty soon you won't recognize the groove you loaded.

I use SONAR and I have a bunch of tunes I created with Jammer Pro. What I do is slice the drum clips in to 2 measure segments of each different groove in the song, convert them to groove clips and then file-export them as groove clips. then use those to "seed" Jamstix for each different part. Choose the drummer best suited to the particular tune and massage from there.

And one more thing, if you choose Charlie as your drummer you'll have to move the sliders pretty far to the right to get any major variations.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I have Jammer Pro 6 too. The best composer package in my view, whereas Band in a Box perhaps works quicker if you just need to get a backing track fast.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh, interestingly enough, I discovered Jammer Pro back at version 4, 5 or 6 years ago, while I was looking for something to help do drum parts for originals in MIDI. Something for which Jamstix is now uniquely suited, but at that time Jammer was amazing itself, even for drums.
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