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Mark Blair

Since I can't currently successfully import a particular .mid file using the JS2 "Import' style strategy (see my previous "Process for "seeding" JS2 with a groove..." post at http://rayzoon.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2490 for full details), I'm wondering if anybody has a strategy for me to get the following groove into JS2:

Overall beat is 4/4 time, but using HiHat triplets (3 per quarter note, so there are a total of 12 evenly-spaced HiHat hits per bar), yet the Kick and Snare are NOT shuffled at all.

1) Is there an easy way to do get this basic groove into JS2?

2) Then, since I can't currently use this groove to "seed" (start off) a JS2 song using the "Import' style strategy, what's the easiest way to accomplish that objective (to have JS2 add variations, accents, and fills to turn that basic groove into a "live" and varied performance?

Thanks in adavance for any help you can provide on this!

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Try this: create your groove in the JS2 bar editor manually as follows:

Add a hihat note to right hand beat 1 and the next two sixteenth notes. Set the latter two notes to 'Shuffled' and adjust their velocity a bit down (to your liking). Now COPY drag&drop the three notes to their counterparts in beats 2,3 and 4 for a total of 12 hihat notes.

This will give you the hihat triplet feel.

Add the kick and snare as desired and when you're done use the bar editor menu to save the groove (Save Bar). Now create a part, choose Import style and set the import to 'JS2' and load your groove. Pick a fitting drummer and now you have your groove as a 'seed' for the drummer.
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Mark Blair · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject:

That was a GREAT answer, Ralph -- this seems to have accomplished EXACTLY what I wanted to do!!

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding on this issue. I still can't believe that I read the full JS2 manual twice and couldn't figure this out myself. Anyway, this process works like a charm.

Perhaps there should be a Workflow Strategies FAQ? If so, I vote for your answer above to be there.

Thanks again!

Mark Blair · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject:

Not sure if I should have started a new Subject, but:

The above seems to work EXTREMELY well with regard to Grooves and Accents. However, I tried the Shuffling setting on Fills, yet they still seem to get created without that "triplet" feel, and so clash with the rest of the rhythm. BTW, I'm using James Stix as the drummer.

Anyway, is there something else I should do to force Fills to be created with the same triplet timing of the HiHats?

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Mark Blair · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:

WOW - that certainly adds the finishing touch! I ended up clicking the S button in the shuffle area so it would apply to all of the fills in the song.

This is working out VERY well, Ralph! I can see you've put a tremendous amount of thought and work into this.

The bugs will get sorted out eventually, but you have an amazing product here just as it is.

Tutorials will be great. But I expect that even a "how to do the most-requested tasks" sort of document based upon what's already been asked and answered here in the forums would be a very useful first step.

Anyway -- great job, Ralph. I can now say that I'm truly compressed -- I mean impressed!! Wink