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drjee
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Suggestions and Missing Features Reply with quote

Hi,

I read through the manual I must say that everything is very well thought out. But I found some very minor points which could be improved:

1. In the manual a section about accents is missing. Although quite self-explanatory, just add some basic remarks for the sake of completeness.
2. Since part can be triggered by program change commands I think one should have 128 parts (as this is the number of possible programs). That would give more flexibility in composing.
3. The power level should not ony be adjustable by song, but (as with timing) also by part and bar.
4. The tick editor popup should have a close button
5. Please, deliver more groove weight presets (especially for off-beat grooves and odd meters).

thanks for this great product.

cheers, drjee
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3. Most people tend to automate it from the host, that way you can get seemless or abrupt changes totally easy.
But it sure is a suggestion that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, of course one could do automation, but since we have a part and bar based layout inside JS now, it would be easier to set it up part based and then to fine-tune it bar-based. imo much easier than to have to record automation data to the host or draw envelope curves.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All duly noted.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the manual quickly a couple of weeks before JS2 arrived, then read it again today, now that I know JS2 a little better.

Generally I am happy with all it can do, but as mentioned in another thread I think there should be more options for combining crtl, alt, shift with mouse clicks or moves. Basically so that you don't have to move up to the window above for outlining a rhythm pattern.

Also today I noted that in song editor you press crtl to move a part, but in the bar editor you press shift to move (and ctrl to copy). This is inconsistant. In fact, I think you should just drag and move in both places without pressing additional keys, and crtl-drag should make a copy (that goes for the song editor too!).

An addition to the manual: For midi only output, please mention that you should still choose a drumkit to get the correct midi notes. For instance, if you want your midi notes to correspond to DFHS then this must be loaded, even though you just route to midi out.

... I was a bit confused trying to use Cubase drummaps until this by coincidence occured to me.

An addition to about wanted features (further out in the future): JS2 has a great way of drag-dropping bars or songs directly into your sequencer. What about doing it the other way? Drag-dropping a pattern from sequencer to JS2. In certain situations it could be easier locating the drum pattern you want in the sequencer, then move the bar into JS2. Otherwise a lot of editing, saving and opening again in JS2 would be involved.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking note of all of it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some suggestions:

1) How about mute/solo buttons for individual parts/aspects. Sometimes it would be nice to listen to just the accent part or fill part. Also, a mute button would be useful for instance to figure out if you want a fill at a particular bar or not. When you clear the fill you cannot undo it. A mute would help a lot here.

2) There is no undo/redo? This makes me hesitant to experiment freely.

3) Kind of minor nit: When you have the Auto Audit Sounds option enabled, you hear the sounds as you mouse over them. Also, when the sound editor pops up, the sounds play as you mouse over the names of the sounds. While in general this is good, I think for the sound editor, it would have been better if the sound only played when you mouse over the icon for the sound instead of the full name. Where this is a bit of a problem is when you just want to increase/decrease the level of a sound in the bar editor, and you have to mouse all the way to the top to get to the slider. You hit a whole mess of sounds on the way up, and it is a bit overwhelming. I tried to mouse around the list of sounds but the editor often closes in that case because the mouse goes out of its window. So maybe if you mouse over the icon to the left of the name to audit the sound then we can mouse through the list of names to get to the top without hearing them all.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good stuff. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one very small thing before I shut off the computer and go to bed.

I have just spent some time wondering why repetition beats did not change length when I moved the rotary. I found out why:

In the Song Editor under Fills the succession is R T over the LEDs. However, in the Bar Editor you have change the succession in Length to T-Beat an then R-Beat. So just before bedtime I picked the wrong rotary assuming the same succession as in Song Editor.

I suggest you use the order R T in both places. After all they are visible on screen at the same time, and therefore should appear in the same order both places.
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