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Susan G
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 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: Triplets? |
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Quick question:
Will JS2 provide for quarter- and half-note triplet fills? Maybe JS1 does already and I just haven't figured out how.
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: |
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No, the maximum is 8th triplets, meaning 3 8th notes that fill the space of a quarter note.
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Susan G
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks as always for the speedy reply. Not what I wanted to hear, but I'll live with it!  Is there any workaround, especially for quarter note triplets? As I'm sure you know, these are very common in all sorts of genres.
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Well, let's make sure we are talking about the same thing. The most common triplet is what is called a '8th triplet' in Jamstix, that is 3 8th notes that fill the space of a quarter note. Many people also calls this a quarter triplet (which is probably the better term) refewring to the length of the triplet. So, if you want a triplet that spans the length of a quarter note then that is what JS does.
The shuffle logic also allows 16th triplets, which refers to aligning the last 16th of a quarter beat to an imaginary 16th shuffled note grid. A good example would be 'Rosanna' from Toto.
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Susan G
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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I'm using the standard definition, where a quarter note triplet = a half note duration. Here's a Wikipedia entry:
| Quote: | | Whereas normally two quarter notes are the same duration as a half note, three triplet quarter notes total that same duration, so the duration of a triplet quarter note is 2/3 the duration of a standard quarter note. Similarly, three triplet eighth notes are equal in duration to one quarter note. |
Maybe many people are calling an eighth note triplet a quarter note triplet these days, but that's just plain wrong! Triplet refers to 3 in the time of 2, and there's no way 3 eighth notes should be called a "quarter note triplet".
Anyway, thanks! |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Jamstix uses the Wikipedia definition in its triplets.
Quarter note triplets can be achieved in Jamstix manually since they are on the same grid as 8th triplets, just doubled.
Here's an example where the kick pattern is a half note triplet (Jamstix must be in 8th shuffle mode):
Also, concerning the alternate definition: it would be better to call the 8th triplet a quarter triplet in percussion because the length of a note is (mostly) irrelevant for drums so the total span of the triplet is far more important than the length of the note. Even taking note length into account: in what is called a 8th triplet by Wikipedia (and Jamstix) I could play 32nd note lengths or 16th note length and the note starts would still be on the same time spots and not change the overall rhythmic nature other than making it more or less staccato.
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Susan G
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Here's an example where the kick pattern is a half note triplet (Jamstix must be in 8th shuffle mode): |
Great, I'll try that -- Thanks. |
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