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[Ralph [RZ]]

That's a good idea. Thanks!
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[tombuur]

Again I have tried to look into the various maps, but it leaves me a bit confused. There are several maps for DFHS and C&V, but I can't figure out what they are doing.

I don't necessarily have to know exactly what notes are sent where. Some information about what cymbals, toms etc. are required for jamstix to work properly would do. As it is I may have set up a drumkit with empty slots, and if jamstix accesses those ... well, it won't sound the way it should.

Also I can't quite figure out how to do percussion with jamstix/DFHS.

[Ralph [RZ]]

[tombuur]

Don't you ever sleep ...

Didn't know I could see the maps. There must be a lot under the surface I haven't seen yet.

As to percussion with DFHS/CV that was one of my reasons for switching to that from BFD. I have set up a drummap in Cubase so that if I use both drummer and percussionist I can direct the midi notes to these two drumsynths as appropriate. So somehow I guess I could make it work with Jamstix.

[Ralph [RZ]]

We'll deal with percussion in more depth with Jamstix 2. For now, you'd probably have to export the MIDI from Jamstix and then extract the percussion notes and send/map them to the DFHS perc player.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[tombuur]

I already do a realtime export of jamstix, that is I use midi out only then to a midi track using drummap to DFHS and percussionist. But perhaps the percussion notes interfere with the DFHS notes and are not propagated this way, but only routed internally?

[Ralph [RZ]]

The percussion notes are the ones shown in the mapping tab sound list for the individual percussion sounds. You can re-map them there, or in the host or in DFHS.
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[RWIL]

Hi,
I'm trying a specific setup in Cubase 4 using DFHS and the maps available for DFHS are not working. The only one working for that specific setup is the DFHS GM.
So this is what I'm trying to do in C4:
-1 midi drum tack having Jamstix as midi out and Jamstix set to Play input & Mute brain
-1 midi drum track having DFHS loaded with a Superior setup (not GM) and monitor button enabled

So I try to play GM midi drum files already on the jamstix midi track and using DFHS as output (not loaded as ext. VST inside Jamstix).
If Jamstix is using the DFHS GM map and DFHS is loaded using GM extended; fine that works ok.
Now the problem is that if I'm using in Jamstix any of the DFHS 600 or 800 maps, and DFHS is loaded in Superior mode; the mapping is not good, and whatever if «Map GM Input» in Jamstix is ticked or not.
It is only when DFHS is loaded inside Jamstix (as external VST) that reading my GM files works.

Am I missing something?
Thanks,
RW
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[Ralph [RZ]]

Sounds like you are basically trying to use Jamstix as a GM-to-Superior mapping translator. It certainly wasn't designed to do that It's neat that this actually works in subhost mode...

It might be better to use a MIDI translation plugin instead of Jamstix so you feed the GM MIDI stream directly into DFHS with the translator plugin changing pitches as needed.

By the way, you did not send the GM data stream directly into DFHS, right? You used a MIDI track with input=Jamstix and output=DFHS, right?
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[RWIL]

[tombuur]

I don't understand completely. Do you use Jamstix to tranlate GM to DFHS?

I too have a lot of GM mapped stuff. In Cubase I made my own drum map, because I wanted to filter out the GM notes intended for percussion and send them to Percusionist. So I can set up a drum map with some GM notes goes to drummer and some to percussionist. The built in GM function in DFHS does not allow this.

I also have Sonar and have written a CAL routine that will remap a GM track to DFHS layout. The advantage is that after remapping I can edit the notes. For instance a lot of quick snare hits, which in GM will give you only right hand, can be edited to alternately hitting right and left. This makes it sound a lot more natural.

Unfortunately I haven't found a way to do such a translation in Cubase. I can of course use Sonar, save all midi tracks and open them in Cubase. But it just doesn't feel so elegant.

[RWIL]

[Doc]

FYI, in a few weeks time we will be given a new option how to translate Jamstix´brain goodies to other drum libraries like DFHS.

Toontrack has just announced the release of EZ Player free, an app. that will translate any midi file into a DFHS mapping (and mappings of other major drum libraries).

The approach, as I understand it, would be:
1. Jamstix Midi Out
2. Record a Jamstix Midi file
3. Have EZ Player translate it into a DFHS (or other) mapping.

Further information here: http://www.toontrack.com/ezplayer_free.asp

[RWIL]

[Zycat]

Hey, when I subhosted DFHS with Jamstix the channels doesn't load up correctly. I mean, the first output channel in Jamstix has kick drum sound on left and first snare mic on right, the next channel would have second snare on left and first tom on right, and then the next would have second tom on left, third tom on right. What gives? EZdrummer worked fine though.

Also, might be a Cubase SX issue, the midi output timing is off when I tried to trigger DFHS using Jamstix's midi output... any pointers?