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Alouf Junior Jammer

Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: Is Jamstix for me? |
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Hi,
I am a complete neophite when it comes to drums. I am mainly a guitar player and know nothing about drums.
I used to play in a band until it got dismantled, and now I practice solo at home.
I know how VST and VSTi work, but I have no idea on how drum VSTi work, how to use them or how to program them.
I looked at the rayzoon jamstix interface and it looks scarry and complicated. Now maybe it is not, but to me this is how it seems.
I am looking for a program that will accompany me with my guitar playing (a virtual drummer per say) that would be easy to set up and "program" ( although i still do not know what that means )
Is Jamstix for me?
Thanks for your replies. |
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AlanB Jamologist

Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 134
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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IMHO very much so!
I'm a guitarist as well, and I used to try to create midi drums parts, but it was tedious, and the results did not sound very realsitic.
Jamstix solves this by playing drums based on options that you choose. You can either have Jamstix detect your playing and supply a suitable accompaniment, or play on its own using patterns and styles that are easy to select. Also, this forum is probably the most helpful you'll find on the web. Ralph and other users will give you any help you need.
I can honestly say that buying Jamstix was the best money I ever invested on computer music. Also at the moment its available at a sales price, with a free upgrade to Jamstix 2, so its an absolute no brainer.
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politcat Jamologist

Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 133
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Is Jamstix for me? |
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| Alouf wrote: | Hi,
I am looking for a program that will accompany me with my guitar playing (a virtual drummer per say) that would be easy to set up and "program" ( although i still do not know what that means )
Is Jamstix for me?
Thanks for your replies. |
no progam out there will come as close to having a real drummer as jamstix. |
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Alouf Junior Jammer

Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:54 am Post subject: |
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What abou that intemidating UI?
Is it really that complicated?  |
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AlanB Jamologist

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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Alouf wrote: | What abou that intemidating UI?
Is it really that complicated?  |
Not at all. Once you start using it, you'll soon get used to it. And if you have any questions, you can always ask here.
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Alouf, the GUI looks more complicated than it is.
Try starting off like this:
- add Jamstix to your host
- click 'Free Jam' in the jam tab
- start your host
- after a few beats, Jamstix will start playing a groove
- while it is playing move the 'funkiness' and 'complexity' sliders in the jam tab around and listen how it affects the rhythm generated
- now play with other settings in the jam tab and see what they do
After that, try loading a few rhythm in the rhythm tab via the 'Load' button and then arrange them in the arranger. It's very easy once you get the hang and also try adding fills by right-clicking on a bar in the arranger.
We're here to help at any time. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com |
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wiggum Junior Jammer

Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Alouf wrote: | What abou that intemidating UI?
Is it really that complicated?  |
Maybe at first, but print out the manual and read it, and you will see that the program actually quite easy to use. |
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Alouf Junior Jammer

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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Zauni wrote: | Alouf, the GUI looks more complicated than it is.
Try starting off like this:
- add Jamstix to your host
- click 'Free Jam' in the jam tab
- start your host
- after a few beats, Jamstix will start playing a groove
- while it is playing move the 'funkiness' and 'complexity' sliders in the jam tab around and listen how it affects the rhythm generated
- now play with other settings in the jam tab and see what they do
After that, try loading a few rhythm in the rhythm tab via the 'Load' button and then arrange them in the arranger. It's very easy once you get the hang and also try adding fills by right-clicking on a bar in the arranger.
We're here to help at any time. |
Thanks Zauni,
I will try that with the demo version. I will report my complete newbie impressions later. |
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Alouf Junior Jammer

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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
I have bough Console (VST/VSTi host) for my jams. I think it is great for my live setup.
Where do I plug jamstix in the processing chain?
Do I plug it before my ampsim or after? I am guessing after?
Will my guitar going through Jamstix affect the sound and the quality?
Thanks for your replies. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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I'd try out various ways and use whatever works best. I'd start with letting JS 'hear' the processed guitar signal, after the amp sim, since that signal is more 'averaged' and 'louder'.
There is no impact on sound. I'm not familiar with Console but in general, you put audioM8 on the audio track that carries the guitar signal. All it does is detect the volume data and process it, it does not change the guitar sound. audioM8 then sends the data to any JS loaded in the host. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com |
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