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thomasross20
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 Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: More rhythms... |
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Hi,
I was just wondering... is there any way to get more than 15 rhythms per song (in the arrangement window)? My songs usually last quite long and require a lot of different beats.. Right now I'm totally re-doing the drums so that the same 15 beats can be used throughout... Perhaps this number has increased for version 2?
Thanks!
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shush
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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I'm having the same issue. Being the nit picky freak that I am, there are certain points in a song where i have to customize a few things here and there so i end up taking a rhythm slot.
I made a FR where one can click on a cell within an arrangement track and make any desired changes without it affecting the whole rhythm track (as an option). This would be a GREAT feature for me. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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In Jamstix 2 the arranger is section-based. For example: you tell JS that you have a section (let's call it 'Verse') that is 8 bars long and should use a 2-bar pattern. Jamstix 2 will then automatically deal with the needed bars to build the section. On top of that is a low-level editor, much like a step sequencer, that displays the contents of each bar. Here you can edit the section in several ways:
- you can edit the 2-bar pattern that the section is using
- you can edit accents and fills for each individual bar
- you can overwrite the base pattern for a specific bar
The latter should provide you with the requested facility to edit a single bar without affecting anything else. With all of this, there is no more pattern limit.
In many ways, what I have been describing is a more integrated environment that enforces more structure, automatically incorporates liveloops technology as each section is pretty much an enhanced liveloop and still gives you more editing freedom than JS1 since you can fine-tune a single bar, accent and fill without losing your basic song structure.
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thomasross20
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds awesome!!! Thanks!! |
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timmyo
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Zauni wrote: |
In many ways, what I have been describing is a more integrated environment that enforces more structure, automatically incorporates liveloops technology as each section is pretty much an enhanced liveloop and still gives you more editing freedom than JS1 since you can fine-tune a single bar, accent and fill without losing your basic song structure. |
Cool.
Has it surprised you how many of us use it as an arranger rather than a jammer ? imo it is outstanding as an arranger, and the various enhancements that have been made through user feeback seem to have improved the arranging UI more than any other single aspect |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| timmyo wrote: | | Has it surprised you how many of us use it as an arranger rather than a jammer ? imo it is outstanding as an arranger, and the various enhancements that have been made through user feeback seem to have improved the arranging UI more than any other single aspect |
It was not really a surprise, at least not as big as the strong usage of the internal audio engine, which I did not anticipate at all.
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lucky
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I use Jamstix almost exclusively during jam sessions with other musicians or during a 'personal session' to create ideas for songs.
In the first scenario I hardly do any changes after the jam and the jams get 'distributed' as is. I welcome any functionality that enhances the live jam experience and I think that this is one of the key features that separates Jamstix from the rest. Jam(!)stix
In the second scenario I use Cubase to edit the drum track as I find it more intuitive to see the notes in the track and use all the midi programming features Cubase has. Jamstix give me the possibility to use the creative moment to record my ideas very quickly and have a starting point for the song.
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Musikman4Christ
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| lucky wrote: | I use Jamstix almost exclusively during jam sessions with other musicians or during a 'personal session' to create ideas for songs.
In the first scenario I hardly do any changes after the jam and the jams get 'distributed' as is. I welcome any functionality that enhances the live jam experience and I think that this is one of the key features that separates Jamstix from the rest. Jam(!)stix
In the second scenario I use Cubase to edit the drum track as I find it more intuitive to see the notes in the track and use all the midi programming features Cubase has. Jamstix give me the possibility to use the creative moment to record my ideas very quickly and have a starting point for the song.
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Lucky, I also have cubase so I was was trying to understand when you said that you edited the midi of Jamstix in Cubase. So say you wanted a fill to sound different, you would just make the changes of the midi info in cubase and when you play it back Jamstix will apply the change? So in other words, you don't need to edit within jamstix right?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Musikman4Christ wrote: | | lucky wrote: | I use Jamstix almost exclusively during jam sessions with other musicians or during a 'personal session' to create ideas for songs.
In the first scenario I hardly do any changes after the jam and the jams get 'distributed' as is. I welcome any functionality that enhances the live jam experience and I think that this is one of the key features that separates Jamstix from the rest. Jam(!)stix
In the second scenario I use Cubase to edit the drum track as I find it more intuitive to see the notes in the track and use all the midi programming features Cubase has. Jamstix give me the possibility to use the creative moment to record my ideas very quickly and have a starting point for the song.
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Lucky, I also have cubase so I was was trying to understand when you said that you edited the midi of Jamstix in Cubase. So say you wanted a fill to sound different, you would just make the changes of the midi info in cubase and when you play it back Jamstix will apply the change? So in other words, you don't need to edit within jamstix right? |
I´m sure that´s what Lucky meant to say.  |
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