Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[Ralph [RZ]]

For those who are having trouble using Jamstix and an external drum module using the MIDI out in Sonar, here's the step-by-step:

• make sure you use Jamstix 1.02G
  
• make sure you have DirectiXer 2.5 with loopback port installed and Jamstix wrapped
  
• add Jamstix as a synth in Sonar and check the 'Send MIDI To Host...' button above the Jamstix GUI
  
• go to the mapping tab, check the 'MIDI-Out Only' box and load a mapping of your choice, matching your module if possible. Jamstix will not load the module but send MIDI out events that match the mapping and module. Note that output number does not have to match the drum module anymore.
  
• add your drum module as a synth in Sonar (not in Jamstix!) and select 'DirectiXer Loopback' as the MIDI input.
  
• Make sure Input Echo is on on the track of your drum module or Sonar won't feed the DirectiXer loopback events unless the track is highlighted
  
• If you wish to trigger the drum module manually from your keyboard through Jamstix, you need to make sure that the Jamstix MIDI track is highlighted and that its MIDI input is set to your keyboard (not Omni or you may get DirectiXer MIDI feedback)
  

That's it. All sounds generated by Jamstix are now sent as MIDI commands to the drum module via DirectiXer.

NOTE THAT MIDI-OUT IS LIMITED TO BARS 1-4 IN THE DEMO!
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[stash98]

Ralph helped me out on this one, and it is much better to go about it this way if you have BFD and Sonar. Once you get it set up you have total sound control plus the Jamstix brain. I would strongly reccomend trying this setup if you want to take full advantage of BFD's sounds.

[teacher911]

[Ralph [RZ]]

Not sure if I understand correctly but I would freeze Jamstix to get a wave from it. Make sure to insert a MIDI event (like a single note) at the end of the Jamstix MIDI track so Sonar doesn't think it's empty.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[teacher911]

[quote="Zauni"]Not sure if I understand correctly but I would freeze Jamstix to get a wave from it. Make sure to insert a MIDI event (like a single note) at the end of the Jamstix MIDI track so Sonar doesn't think it's empty.[/quote


What do you mean to "Freeze Jamstix" How is this done?

I am using the Echo Layla24 card (breakout box) with Sonar 4.02 Producer. I need to know the exact directions as to capture any given groove out of the "Load" prompt so that Sonar sees it as an inserted Audio Track. I would assume that any given groove out of Jamstix CAN'T see it's drum attributes as a MIDI TRACK - right? Therefore, an Audio track is the way to go here.

T911

[Ralph [RZ]]

I still don't understand the purpose of your workflow. Jamstix and Sonar work together on the MIDI level. There is no need to capture audio unless you run out of CPU cycles.

The freeze function is in the track context menu of Sonar as well as the synth rack.

Try loading rhythms in Jamstix and then spreading them out across your song in the arrangement tab of Jamstix. As you play Sonar you will notice how Jamstix plays the assigned groove for each bar as assigned every time. No need to capture audio that I can see.

If I'm still off, please explain a bit more how you want to work on a project.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[teacher911]

Hi,

all I want to see on my inserted audio track in Sonar 4.02 is some evidence of audio data when I arm the record for that track. I need to see the velocity colums move in Sonar. I want to record a groove that I have loaded.

I want the audio data to reflect any groove in your software. How can I do this..

T911

[Ralph [RZ]]

Sonar does not record audio data on VSTi audio outputs.

Can someone else jump in in case I just can't understand this?
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[teacher911]

You have a nice product but you have an issue in communication. How simple is this to explain.

try it again:

midi track 1 - piano
midi track 2 - bass
midi track 3- Jamstix (Vsti loaded in Sonar)

I am using a Keyboard controller FYI..

I lay down the piano and bass midi track 1 and 2 in Sonar 4.02
I now need a swing groove in Jamstik to be placed on midi track three.
I arm midi track 3 and attempt to record a loaded groove..
result..no midi data.
therefore, I insert an audio track..
I arm it to record a Jamstix loaded groove..
Meters inside Sonar doesn't move.

objective: I need to produce an mp3 file or 3 wav files to go to my audio software for a mix.

Question: Is Jamstix basically for live performance?
can the grooves be recorded as a wav file?
Can we get any midi data out of your product w/r to the grooves?

I use other VSTi without a glitch...Trilogy - Real Guitar ..no problem..they all record successfully

T911

[Ralph [RZ]]

[teacher911]

>>Sonar does not record MIDI-Out of a VSTi unless you use DirectiXer and its loopback port. Are you using that? If so, please note that MIDI-Out in the demo version is limited to bars 1-4. <<

ok I got Directixer .. and your demo version..show me the way to get tgose 4 bars using Sonar 4.02 exactly..

BTW, wht can't I see the Jamstix module when I load it as a DXI. I can see it as a VSTi..

T911

[spikey]

[swingguy]

[swingguy]

by the way, I didn't have to use DirectiXer. The Sonar VST Adaptor found Jamstix just fine when I loaded it in to the shared DXI folder.

[swingguy]