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notringo
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 Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: Recording |
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I finally had a chance to play around abit and I'm really enjoying Jamstix!
Those intro and fill selections really save alot a time. I also (with the help of my previous post) figured out the routing in the mapping panel.
So, once I get an arrangement that I'm happy with, how do I record that into Cubase?
I have the levels showing up in the four Jamstix tracks, but hitting record just leaves a blank track. |
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RichLum
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| You should be able to just do a mixdown and the JS channels will be included in the mixdown |
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notringo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for replying rich!
I was hoping to have recorded audio tracks down first. That way you can manipulate them within Cubase first before a mixdown. |
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RichLum
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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OK well I'm not sure with Cubase a I don't use it, but with n-Track and Tracktion you can still add plugins to each channel, use the channel EQ on each channel etc.
If you really want them as separate wavs then you will need to solo each channel and do a mixdown and then import the rendered wav and mute the JS output channel.
If you have enough outputs on your sooundcard you can route each channel to a separate output and then mixdown each soundcard output to a separate wav (assume Cubase can do this...)
HTH,
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notringo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Rich,
I'm not too good with Cubase yet and prefer Samplitude, but I'm trying to learn it on cubase first since it's suppose to be more midi and vsti friendly.
I will try your suggestion, thanks again.
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paspallum
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Cubase Midi friendly |
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Hey Not Ringo
You are right. Cubase is very midi-friendly.
Sampletude is supposed to be an awesome application.
I have Cubase SX and Sonar 5.
I use SONAR 5 for tracking guitars, bass and vocals and final mixing... but I still use CUBASE to start off a song with Jamstix... it is very straightforward and powerful in a midi sense.
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(P.s... we are all 'not Ringo's... that's why we have Jamstix!) |
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notringo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hey thanks everyone,
Yeah Cubase was quite good except I had trouble recording jamstix in it. Ralph helped me out suggesting to freeze the tracks and that I may have to create a dummy midi track (I think that's the proper wording). Anyway the 4 tracks still wouldn't record in Cubase, but freezing the tracks in Samplitude worked fine. I'm sure I just missed a step in my Cubase setup. I haven't had time to go back and try it over from scratch yet.
| Quote: | | P.s... we are all 'not Ringo's... that's why we have Jamstix! |
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Jason
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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not ringo, i'm no Cubase expert but this works for me in SX 1.0:
i just create a midi track with Jamstix as the "out"; i solo that track; set up the locators around the Jamstix bars i want to include in my recording; then i just use Export Audio Mixdown, and it's recorded as audio.
i'm just going by memory, and i'm not sure if you have SX or not but i hope that can do it for you.
cheers. |
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Guitarfish
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I was hoping to have recorded audio tracks down first. That way you can manipulate them within Cubase first before a mixdown. |
Don't know what you're trying to manipulate, but I've had some success with recording the MIDI output (rather than the audio) to cubase, so I could do some fine tweaks in the MIDI editor, then running that back into JS (Effectively using it as a sound module with the brain switched off) - I think it uses less CPU like that, and it certainly allows to use the Cubase midi editing capability (I don't immediately see how it's MIDI capability will help you once you convert to Audio) 
So far, I've left it like that right up to the final mix, although I know in theory I could render it to audio to reduce CPU demand even more.  |
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RichLum
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I don't bother mixing down to audio files unless I need to free up some cpu...
Even if you just leave the channels as separate VSTi channels you can still apply effects and mix them as if they were an audio track (just can't cut and paste them).
(Well I can in n-Track and Tracktion... not sure about cubase, but would think most hosts would be similar)
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archon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Guitarfish wrote: | | Quote: | | I was hoping to have recorded audio tracks down first. That way you can manipulate them within Cubase first before a mixdown. |
Don't know what you're trying to manipulate, but I've had some success with recording the MIDI output (rather than the audio) to cubase, so I could do some fine tweaks in the MIDI editor, then running that back into JS (Effectively using it as a sound module with the brain switched off) - I think it uses less CPU like that, and it certainly allows to use the Cubase midi editing capability (I don't immediately see how it's MIDI capability will help you once you convert to Audio)
So far, I've left it like that right up to the final mix, although I know in theory I could render it to audio to reduce CPU demand even more. |
yeh i do this a lot too - export it as a .MID and then getting jamstix to play it dumb (or 'alive' to add more to it!) this is great if you have finished the arrangement but want to add a couple of bars to the start of the track for an intro you just thought of or something, or if you want to chop up the structure and repeat/delete certain parts. Also handy if you want the MIDI to be played by another VST instrument.
also a great way to creat MIDI loops and grooves quickly for future use..
also I like to bounce to new track in Sonar to create a WAV that i can doctor/reverse chop up and turn into groove clips
but also really dig just letting Jamstix do its thing and leaving it at that often adding BBe Sonic Maximiser plug in/compression/reverb/dub tastic delay into the effects bin etc..
i tell you i love this thing!! i used to spend 70% of my time on a track trying to work out the drums (badly!) = not any more  i got myself a real good drummer who doesnt need 20 mics to record and his kit is setup in like 5 seconds! (and i can jam with him at 3 am with headphones!)
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