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maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Great, that answers my question.

I'll play with the ini file.

Thanks

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Overall, it;s a bit deflating though. I guess I got jamstix since in theory it could offer so many groove variation, but in reality it is very limited to the grooves that's already programmed in.

I wished that there were more presets in grooves, much more variation, and more genre to pick from. I would have liked to have ie, rock/funk/hard rock/classic rock/etc genre to pick, and then pick the funk/complex for each genre.

I used the jamstix to play with my wife, and her first impression was that her keyboard had better sounding drum grooves that what jamstix was "jamming".

I'm not trying to put JS down, I think that I was just expecting a different software. I was hoping for much more variation and breath of choices that the same patterns that it seems to play.

At this point, I guess I have to import grooves from groove monkee and try to have JS vary some of the high hats/cymbals on the grooves, I'm not even sure JS can do that.

I think for the money, there should have been much more variation of grooves offered, it would seriously strenghten this software.

Just my 2 cents.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Well, compared to say even groove monkee, I have to admitt that the grooves on JS are definitly limited.

I'm not trying to put down this software, I own it and I would like to take the most out of it.

I have tried the included library and frankly they are also somewhat lacking. Why cant we import other grooves such as groovemonkee and let JS make it variable with different kick/snare velocity as you can with JS's own built in groove library. PLEASE PLEASE, let us import other grooves and let up vary it up much more with snar/toms/kicks velocity/accents. I think that's were the strenght of the JS is.

Anyways, I frankly think that the only thing missing is more variety for grooves. If it had, I believe it will be the killer of any other groove library out there...

Please keep updating the software, despite my skeptism, I do hope you guys add extra groove variations.

Anyways, I'm done. I'll play with JS more.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. I do know about the import option, however I don't think JS can change/randomize velocity/accent variations of the imported kicks/snare/toms/cymbals on the IMPORTED groove. Am I wrong in this?

If I can do the above, then I'll be much happier.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Thanks again. I'll keep playing with it.

BTW, I just got DFH C&V to go along with JS. Have to set that up. Is there anything specific I need to do from the JS side for C&V?

You guys have the BEST support of any company.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

DrJ · Jam Meister Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 75

I highly recommend playing with the pocket settings, as a non-drummer i was amazed how much you can change the feel of a groove by kicking the different parts around!

Lots of fun too, just dont spend too much time staring at the screen or you'll end up looking like this Shocked

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Interesnting. Can't get C&V to work with JS.

C&V work by itself, tried different midi grooves and plays back just fine.

I then load JS, go to mapping, click Load, choose DFH C&V 800 set 1, click load and get this message:

CANNOT LOAD MODULE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES AT LEAST 7 OUTPUTS. PLEASE ADJUST JAMSTIX IN THE MAPPING TAB ACCORDINGLY AND RESTART JAMSIX FOR THE CHANGE TO TAKE EFFECT.

I did change outputs under sounds to 7, or 8. still says not enough outputs..

Please help.

Tx

maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Nevermind, figured it out.

What is interesting now is that the C&V sound that I'm getting form JS is a bit different than straignt out of C&V without using JS.

So in other words, when I load C&V VST and play a midi file and compare it to C&V throught JS playin the same midi, there is a slight change in pich of hte sound. The drums DEFINITLY do not sound the same after going JS. It's as if I have a filter added in, except I do not.

I know there must be a setting somewhere that I need to check off...

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

You can also check 'MIDI-Out Only' in Jamstix, which unloads C&V but keeps the mapping, and then add C&V straight to Sonar and route the Jamstix MIDI output (available in Sonar 5.2 only) to C&V. That way the sound is not going through the Jamstix mixer/compressors at all.
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maz · Jammer Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 33

Interesting, I'll have to check it out. My sonar doesnt have the upgrade yet, so I guess I have to do that update.

1. So if I go JS midi out, does it map specificaly for C&V or does it send out standard midi GM mapping?

2. Interesting (I only tried it once, I have to try it again to confirm.)
Under JS, the C&V total mem usage was much less (~60% less) then straight C&V in sonar. I kept EVERYTHING the same, same drum kit, mics, etc etc. Very weird. I'll try again tomorrow to confirm.

Thanks man, you'r help is invaluable

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332