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woxnerw · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: Watching the n-Track Thread..

Hi Zauni:
Thanks for your reply to my post..

As I'm trying to catch up on as many threads as I have time for, I see where the introductry offer has run it's course.. I'll be watching the n-Track topic, though, to see how the the two "Editors" interact with each other.. It appears as the issues that were there, between-the-two, are settling down.

The Audio hardware I use at the present time relegates me to Windows '98SE for now.. As the driver versions have stopped being developed.. I have not tested the Downward compatibility of Windows 2000 or XP.. with my setup.. yet.. on the P-4.. The Tracking/Editing, in the studio is quite stable on the P-4 with '98SE as the Operating System..

Hi teej813:
It's good to see you moving in with Jamstix.. I can see where you'll give Jamstix a good home, as the issues you have, disappear..

I'll be working on the Demo pack, here on the P-111 to see how it navigates, before I take it into the studio.. We'll see..

As well, to see Jamstix work for me and my setup, it appears as though I'll be expanding into the MIDI/VSTi World.. I have little-or-no-knowledge in this area, of audio..

However, I'm looking forward to playing/working with Jamstix..

Bill..
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RichLum · Jamologist Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 142 Location: Sydney

Hi Ralph,

OK I started a new project and loaded a wav file and then Jamstix and yep it works fine now

Excellent!!

Thanks a lot

Rich

teej813 · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: Starting From Scratch

I still can't get Free Jam to work. JS recognizes input from the WAV file i'm loaded (red light blinks), but i only get random, occasional drums hits.

And i've noticed something; when i move to the Rhythm tab and click load, there are no rhythms listed. Is this normal for the demo version? I'm wondering if this begins to explain the problem i'm seeing. It's almost as if JS has no rhythms to play, so i'm only hearing the occasional kicks and individual hits it's inserting occasionally.

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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

TeeJay, can you send me another screenshot but with the whole screen this time?

Also, check the folder where you installed Jamstix and make sure you have the 'rhyhtms','accents','samples' and 'mappings' folders there.
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teej813 · Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject:

Hope you don't mind, Ralph. But i'm gonna post those images here. From what i understand, i'm not the only one having this trouble. And i'm happy to help you fix it in any small way i can.

This screenshot shows that all the directories you mentioned are present. There are also rhythms inside the Rhythms folder...

This screenshot shows that N is recognizing JS as a VSTi. I didn't do anything special in the install, Ralph. I did, however, tell N to scan the folder that JS is installed into so it could see it.

This shot shows n-Track's mixer which has both AudioM8 and JS loaded...

This shot shows that AudioM8 is recognizing the acoustic guitar track. This is confirmed on the Jam tab by the red light blinking...

When i start N, JS plays occasional drums hits. But no rhythms.

This screen shot shows that although the rhythm files seem to have been installed in the correct folder, JS isn't recognizing them. This isn't right, is it? I may be way off, but this seems to explain what some of us are seeing...

And this shot shows that there is no sound sample loaded. You referred to this in one of your posts. It's what got me thinking about rhythms not being loaded...

I didn't post the Jam tab because i can't even get JS to play a pattern. If you need me to post the Jam tab, i'd be happy to.

Thanks for your efforts, Ralph.

teej
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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

n-Track doesn't send the 'resume' command until you hit play in n-Track. The 'resume' command is what causes Jamstix to load samples and rhythms. That's not a problem in other hosts and it shouldn't be a problem in n-Track either. All I have to do is hit play in n-Track once and it all loads. Doesn't it do that for you?
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TallPaul · Jammer Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 29

As an n-track user I just wanted to add that I too am interested in a program that works flawlessly within n-track (or stand-alone). That would definitely be a selling point! I would imagine the two companies might even be willing to do a little cross-marketing on each others website and/or a "buy both programs and get X along with it?"
Paul

RichLum · Jamologist Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 142 Location: Sydney

Velocity automation doesn't seem to be working in n-Track...

I load up Jamstix, view the Jamstix velocity envelope and draw some changes but Jamstix still just plays at full veloisty the whole time.

Am I just not doing it properly?

Is it the velocity effect parameter or the volume of the midi track I need to adjust (I've tried both and neither worked...)

thanks,
Rich

woxnerw · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Still following the Thread..

Hi Zauni, RichLum, teej813, and All:
I'm lurking both Boards and viewing the screen shots that tj posted and I see the files that are in the steinberg folder in the program files.. But, I am not makeing any progress beyond that.. I don't think the P-111 has resourses even close enough to run these applications, together.. I've tailored everything, as far as workarounds go, to the barebones miminum.. I've removed and reinstalled the application several times now.. I've had to enter the registry, and anywhere else I could find Rayzoon and delete the entries.. to return to "normal", before Jamstix, install.. to make the P-111 behave.. I thought at one point, on an install, that I was getting close to where tj was.. Today, I have a friend who has downloaded all three demo packs.. I will install the 83 meg. one sometime today and give it another go.. I would liked to have seen some type of operation, but so far, that's not to be..

Thanks, RichLum for your posts on the n-Track Board. They were the right type of prompts, that I needed..

One other question, Guys?... Should I be installing the "Jamstix Update" when I do the next install, with the 83 meg. file? Or.. is.. The Update needed, for the n-Track Editor? I've tried setting Jamstix up both ways.. but, with no success, either way.. And, as I've installed the application several times, with no luck.. What is the correct steps, to install this, properly? I'm gonna load the CD that I get from my buddy into a folder in, My Briefcase.. and launch the .exe for Jamstix, from that folder..

I feel that if I can Get-in-Step with this setup, that It'll be the answer to the drummer, that I am looking for..

Bill..
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Doc · Moderator Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

If you´ve uninstalled everything you should install Jamstix 1.02 next time. Simply let the .exe do its work. You should be able to install from CD as well.

woxnerw · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Reply, from Doc..

Hi Doc:
Thanks for your speedy reply, on this matter.. I know I'm short of resourses on this P-111.. But I'd like to take another crack at this combination, before I take the DeepBreath.. Crying or Very sad

[EDIT] v1.02, it'll be..

In one of the installs I attempted, I see a Nag-Screen, that says, I am unable to Drag the Jamstix screen, to a place on the Monitor where I can see the Time-Line of n-Track.. That's a Drag.. Well.. You see I'm working with the demo version of Jamstix.. As well, there are other obesticles, that I'm faced with when working with the Demo, also..

I'm gonna read the manual, from cover-to-cover.. also.. Shocked

Bill..
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RichLum · Jamologist Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 142 Location: Sydney

Bill even when I was using the demo version of Jamstix I could drag the Jamstix screen anywhere on my dual monitor setup in n-Track....

I would usually have the timeline on the main monitor and the n-Track mixer on the other monitor.
I would then drag the Jamstix window over the top of the mixer.

allows me to jump around in the timeline easily whilst tweaking he arrangement in Jamstix

Rich

woxnerw · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Reply from RichLum..

Hi RichLum:
That's what I found kind of weird.. In the course of the three-four installs of Jamstix, there was never any two setups that behaved the same way, for what I could manipulate.. It makes me think that the installs I made, may have been corrupt, or something.

I don't have the disk that Buddy downloaded for me yet, today.. Mabey later.. Smile

Anyway, I'll give me the oppertunity to go eyeballing through the manual..

Bill..

[EDIT]
oh yes.. I forgot.. I downloaded the latest updates to my video graphics card drivers, in between all those installs.. Mabey that had something to do with the Jamstix and n-Track behaviour, or something, as well..
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RichLum · Jamologist Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 142 Location: Sydney

In case anyone hear doesn't read the N forum too often...
The velocity envelope thing has been sorted.
Thanks to Scantee for working out that you have to have the "Playback fader movements" button in nTrack's mixer activated.

Velocity envelopes work fine now in Jamstix when using midi mode and drawing the velocity envelopes to control the intensity of the drumming in Jamstix.

I find this a lot more effective in programming a drum track for a song

Rich