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Merlin
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: request----audiom8 gain adjustment Reply with quote

Hi there,

Ive created my own custom grooves for an acoustic song in Jamsx, and now am using these grooves with the audio jamming--via audiom8: I have set the responce timing function but the signal in audio m8 is too low although my audio signal in cubase sx3 is just under 0db.......---Could you please add a gain adjustment on the Audiom8 pluggin......


Also, could you add more jamstix outputs so i can use the lovely sounding Jamstix Compresser on more than 4 channels....thanks


Jamstix is awesome, although i am finding the arrangment side of js very confusing....

Thanks anyway---keep up the amazing work!!! Smile)
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a detailed tutorial on using the arrangement practically???----
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The arranger video tutorial is a good starting point:
http://66.235.201.50/demos/jamstix_tutorial_arranger.avi

I'd be happy to answer any specific questions or you could tell me how you would like to approach building an arrangement and then I can tell you how to fit that in with JS.

audioM8 Gain: add this line to the [General] section of your jamstix.ini file:

MaxTrim=400

This will double the range of the input trim knob. You can try other numbers (200 is the default)
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, ill try the last thread in a bit--Thanks..

Im writing a commercial acoustic guitar rock/pop/ blues song and am using cubase sx3 and jamstix.


I have a complete rythm guitar wav file (guide track) , and what to use the arrangment section in jamstix to compose the drum track ....Once im happy with the drum arrangment ill redo the guitar track, then add bass, more guitar, vox etc....... (it really is a killer track Smile )




I tried creating my own custom beats for the arrangement although a few hours ago i deleted it and started from scratch...Now i will be using the grooves from ' Blues' in the Keyword jam section, since some of the rhyms are perfect for this tune.......

So.... i select blues from the keyword jam and then click on the arrangement page. I push play in cubase to listen to guitar wav file (guide track) whilst auditioning the different grooves from Jamstixs' arrangment page.------This is where i come across the 1st problem--------During playback,When i select a groove from the list, to audition it, it doesnt seem to stay, and quickly reselects the first groove in the list. The Use Arrangment box is ticked and i have selected the keyword jam tab. Please help meeeeee Smile)

Ideally, i want the structure from the arrangment set-in-stone whilst making good use of the jamstix jamming brain
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERDUDE wrote:
This is where i come across the 1st problem--------During playback,When i select a groove from the list, to audition it, it doesnt seem to stay, and quickly reselects the first groove in the list.

Okay, your problem is that you're trying to change the arrangement manually while in key word mode. Here's the basics:

Free Jam/Key Word Jam -> Jamstix controls the arranger
Manual Jam -> You control the arranger

So I'd recommend you set Jamstix to 'Manual Jam', clear the arrangement, go to the rhythm tab, click 'Load' and select keyword 'blues'. Now highlight as many rhythms as you want (use the note icon to preview if needed) and click 'Load'.

The arranger now shows all the rhythms you've selected and you can easily click them in the bars as needed and then add fills, intro and ending.

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ralph--- Smile)


Ill try that now Smile) been working on it all day and still havent sussed it---im sure once im comfortable with using the arrangment my tunes will sound awesome--thanks to jamstix of course...Ill post you my tune when its ready if you want.


So which bar would you advice me to start from in jamstix??---In cubase sx3 i normally start on bar 5(weird but ive got used to this)


Anyway--i off to try that stuff .--im sure ill be back with more qs Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERDUDE wrote:
So which bar would you advice me to start from in jamstix??---In cubase sx3 i normally start on bar 5(weird but ive got used to this)

I start late, too. Bar 5 is great as it gives JS a few bars to synch up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool---great minds think alike-- Smile forget the rest of that saying---Anyway



Ive just loaded up the grooves, but i think keyword jam is the way to go for me since the fills ive midi recorded this way b4 have been amazing- yet the only aspect of this i dont like is that its unpredictable. If i start on bar 5 in a keyword jam will the first fill be there at the end of 4 8bars leading into a chorus?? etc


Its amazing yet still quite unpredictable.........U know what whould be cool ---U could have a transparent horizontal display over the arrangment window where u could spesify verse chorus bridge etc sections(exactally like the marker track in cubase---Once this marker has been set up in the arrangement page, jamstix would know the sections to jam over and the fills/cymbals could be less unpredicable whilst giving the user a customizable song structures.------- Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERDUDE wrote:
Ive just loaded up the grooves, but i think keyword jam is the way to go for me since the fills ive midi recorded this way b4 have been amazing- yet the only aspect of this i dont like is that its unpredictable. If i start on bar 5 in a keyword jam will the first fill be there at the end of 4 8bars leading into a chorus?? etc

You can start off with key word jam until you've got a good concept going and then switch to 'Manual jam' to fine-tune things.

You can also look at the name of the fills the KWJ used and select them manually as well.

The fill logic uses the 'Start Bar' in the arrangment window to start off counting fill locations. Change it to 5 or whatever your song calls for.


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U could have a transparent horizontal display over the arrangment window where u could spesify verse chorus bridge etc sections(exactally like the marker track in cubase---Once this marker has been set up in the arrangement page, jamstix would know the sections to jam over and the fills/cymbals could be less unpredicable whilst giving the user a customizable song structures.------- Smile

We have a 'song wizard' concept for Jamstix 2 where you can specify sections to structure the jam. This will be based on the existing liveloop concept.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Ralph,

the Song wizrd sounds amazing---any idea when it will be released?



Thanks for the prompt replys btw. Your always very helpful Smile

Yea---Im confused with the arrangements ----If i go through all the fills etc... ill probably get the nack of it...I had a great bit that Jamstix jammed out in keyword jam, then i lost it.....Should midi record everything, just incase.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow Ralph,
the Song wizrd sounds amazing---any idea when it will be released?

Not before December, likely later.

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I had a great bit that Jamstix jammed out in keyword jam, then i lost it.....Should midi record everything, just incase.

You can also save backups of arrangements using the disk icon in the arranger or even full state backups using 'Save Bank' in your host.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi There:)


Ive created the basic grooves for my song----very basic sceleton structure----(verse section, chorus section, etc)

Now, am i right in thinking once i have drawn the beats in on the timeline(arrangment page), i can get jamstix jamming within these grooves i have structured-----If so, Would i put JS on Manual jam and tweak from there?

If i draw in fills in the arrangment window, how will i be sure that no fills will occur on bars i have not specified with fill markers?(in manual mode)
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERDUDE wrote:
Hi There:)


Ive created the basic grooves for my song----very basic sceleton structure----(verse section, chorus section, etc)

Now, am i right in thinking once i have drawn the beats in on the timeline(arrangment page), i can get jamstix jamming within these grooves i have structured-----If so, Would i put JS on Manual jam and tweak from there?


Right, you should tweak further from Manual Jam.

SUPERDUDE wrote:
If i draw in fills in the arrangment window, how will i be sure that no fills will occur on bars i have not specified with fill markers?(in manual mode)


Make sure you have the "use arrangement" box checked.

It can never hurt to save your arrangement prior to tweaking as Ralph has suggested above.
And you can save again at different tewaking stages, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUPERDUDE wrote:

Now, am i right in thinking once i have drawn the beats in on the timeline(arrangment page), i can get jamstix jamming within these grooves i have structured-----If so, Would i put JS on Manual jam and tweak from there?

At the stage you are now at, going back to key word jam would destroy your arrangement and wouldn't make any sense. You are now effectively past the idea-building 'jam' stage and into 'arranging' of the final track. Jamstix still 'jams' your grooves in the sense of human play, velocity variations, accents etc. even when you're in manual jam.

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I love that idea of having a bar over the arrangement that visually indicates “verse” “chorus” bridge” etc. Anything that makes the process more visual is better.

Looking forward to the Song Wizard.

Kev
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