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C_Holdz · Jam Meister Joined: 08 Jun 2020 Posts: 69

I am getting more and more into jamstix as my one and only Drum VST, so I have been trying to export Midi grooves and import them into jamstix

Is the groove editor going to be able to "play," or more importantly, "write" over the Groove? If so, how do I enable this?

In other words, I have a basic verse to import, but I want that to just be a base for the AI to work on...how do I set that up, and I asked this outside of the jamcussion as I am still working on that

Thanks

Knopf_ · Jamologist Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 158

Here you can watch an old video on JS3 about that. I hope it helps.

https://youtu.be/nrcn2d4PPe4

Azimuth · Moderator & Beta Team Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 2131

I would also suggest experimenting with the Wrapping function of the Groove Importer which creates some really interesting pattern variations or will extend common time signature imports for use with uncommon time sigs. It's another one of Jamstix' secret weapons IMO.

TheSystem · Grand Master Jam Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 294

C_Holdz · Jam Meister Joined: 08 Jun 2020 Posts: 69

Awesome replies

Thank you guys.

I think a little YouTube video from Rayzoon on the secret weapons or awesome features would be really helpful as well

This VST is so damn incredible, I am so glad I bought the Ultimate edition

PS this is insignificant but it says “studio version 4.4.6” in the GUI instead of ultimate, does anyone else have an updated GUI after the upgrade or it just stays “studio” for everyone ?

Azimuth · Moderator & Beta Team Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 2131

Studio 4.4.6 here. Ultimate just includes all of the Mini-Paks which are add ons and not technically a core part of Jamstix.

C_Holdz · Jam Meister Joined: 08 Jun 2020 Posts: 69

Ok thanks again
That video from YouTube is awesome and so is the wrapping suggestions

C_Holdz · Jam Meister Joined: 08 Jun 2020 Posts: 69

Azimuth · Moderator & Beta Team Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 2131

Let's use 4/4 as an example CR. You've got 16 16th beats across the 4 Bars. If you set the Wrapping to 8x16, the first 8 beats of your import will play and then on beat #9 the first 8 beats will repeat again. If you set it to 9x16, the first 9 beats will play and then on beat #10, the first 9 beats will repeat again but beats #8 & #9 will be "dropped". 10X16 Wrapping will result in beats #1-#10 playing, repeat, and beats #7 - #10 being "dropped" now.

It also works the other way around. If you import a 4/4 midi clip into Jamstix and set your Song Part time sig to 9/4, beats #5 - #9 will be empty with No Wrapping chosen. If you now set the wrapping it will "loop" the imported clip to fill out the empty bars.

I'd suggest just hand editing a simple kick on 1&3, Snare on 2&4 with steady 8th hats and then add a Groove Importer and step through the Wrap settings from 1x16 on up through the choices and observe how the events in the Bar Editor move in response to your selection.

Then create an empty 9/4 Song Part, hand edit that same pattern for beats #1 - #4 and step through the Wrap setting again and observe the result. Make sure to go past 16x16 this time to see what happens.

You can generate some really wild stuff with the Wrapping function once you get a grasp on what it is doing. HTH

C_Holdz · Jam Meister Joined: 08 Jun 2020 Posts: 69

Thanks so much! I’m going to tweak beat by beat to see how to affect change.

That definitely makes “the feel” tighter. This VST is so intricate I feel I’m doing myself a disservice by not simply and solely concentrate on that part of “my rig,” I just have so much going on besides the drums that I am trying to record and mix/master...

It’s funny - with so much on my plate, Jamstix both helps with the workload, but then creates a new rabbit hole to wander down because of its expansive customizability...and then pairing it with other drum VST’s often yields unexpectedly awesome results like the wrapping.