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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject: Time Sig Help Reply with quote

Having trouble figuring out the time signature of this beat. Any help would be appreciated.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/tm296rbnu39frl8/Beat.mp3?dl=0
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like 7/8 to me, counted as I think of it...

ONE and TWO and THREE and a...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right, many thanks!

The rhythm I'm working on consists of 5 bars of this 7/8 pattern, but it needs to restart on the 3rd beat of the last bar. Is this possible with Jamstix?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvin_Abuser wrote:
The rhythm I'm working on consists of 5 bars of this 7/8 pattern, but it needs to restart on the 3rd beat of the last bar. Is this possible with Jamstix?

It would need a compound time sig with one part of 4 bars in 7/8 and then one part with a single bar in 2/8. Repeat and rinse. Alternatively, you can do 3 bars of 7/8 in the first part and one bar of 9/8 in the second part.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. How is this done? Do I make 2 different patterns, one in 7/8 and one in 2/8, then use the song sheet to string them together?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, create two parts, set their time sigs correctly and then paste them consecutively as needed. Also, the host needs to do the time sig switches at all part changes as well. It's a bit of a pain to set up because VST time sig comms with the host are rudimentary.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having trouble with another time signature. Any help would be appreciated.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lo4a7q7rajrlndd/Beat2.mp3?dl=0
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvin_Abuser wrote:
I'm having trouble with another time signature. Any help would be appreciated.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lo4a7q7rajrlndd/Beat2.mp3?dl=0


Hi Carvin,

If that beat loops the way it is it would probably be in 5/4 (it almost sounds like 4/4 without context). It also sounds like it's shuffled though I'm not sure of the most straightforward way to achieve this with JS. Usually I import a style I know is shuffled (eg jazz/swing, blues) and edit from there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little more context, more bars, it would help a lot, but if I assume this is just exactly a bar, for me sounds like 5/4.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I tried 5/4 and that didn't work. The closest I can get is 3/4. It loops at the right time, but the strange thing is that after the first bar, the first kick hit is off by 1 beat, meaning that it doesn't line up with the rhythm of the music. Does anyone know what is causing this?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It drops perfectly on a 5/4 grid for me in Reaper so that would be my guess also, assuming it is a single bar.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The beat looks this way in Cubasis, with 92,3 bpm and 5/4.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is in Reaper. 5/4, 91bpm:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5/4 isn't working for me, too many beats. Here's the guitar riff in 3/4 at 70 bpm. I figured out that I'm playing the riff slightly differently after the first bar, not sure why?


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