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shadowfax_
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:13 am    Post subject: incomplete midi file Reply with quote

Hi, My project is set at 120BPM and I have Jamstix set to half speed and when I drag the song midi file to a midi track I'm getting the full midi track but it is now at 120BPM as per project tempo so it's only covering half the song..this took me by surprise but I suppose I should have expected this to happen Embarassed
can anyone tell me how to put it right please, I don't want Jamstix to play at 120BPM, I'm probably being thick here Confused but help would be much appreciated.

thanks, Kevin
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was having a similar issue recently. Just to make sure, have you played through the entire project in Jamstix since changing it back to full speed? Mine was cutting out anything I hadn't actually played.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, yeah, played it right through, Ralph informed of this a while ago,
don't what you mean about changing it back to full speed Confused
my project is at 120BPM and I'm playing JS at half speed then dragging the midi file..I know it's probably the wrong way to do it but dunno what to do, gotta be something to do with sorting the timing out in JS, bit confused at the mo.

thanks for your reply.Kevin
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say that you've got JS set to half speed... what happens if you set it to full speed?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at full speed it goes too fast for the song...I just know I'm being stupid but how would I make JS play slower on a 120BPM project?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the problem goes away with full speed, you could grab the MIDI from Jamstix and then stretch it to the proper length in your DAW.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you VERY much loka..you've just introduced me to something I wasn't aware existed in Cubase, the "sizing applies time stretch tool" took a while to find it after some internet search about stretching midi but..what a great tool it is..
problem solved..thanks again.
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regards, Kevin Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers.

Also, maybe this is a dumb question, but is there some reason you can't set the project tempo to 60bpm? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good question actually...when I'm putting a song together I tend to open a project and play the drum beat on my keyboard for a few bars, then I put that midi file into Jamstix and get on with the song, meanwhile the project tempo is at 120BPM and by the time I get to dragging the midi file from Jamstix I've already recorded a lot of wav stuff...
I dare not think about the complexities of slowing the wav files down Confused
in short ..I'm working wrong Embarassed clearly I should ascertain the tempo before I start recording. Rolling Eyes
problem for me is by the time I do this stuff I've forgotten the song that's in my head Mad

anyway I now have an easy solution....cheers and thank you, Kevin Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how you'd do it in Cubase, but basically every DAW has some way to change the project tempo without affecting audio files, specifically for this purpose.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's my next learning curve I suppose.. Sad
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