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Junior Jammer
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 Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:29 am Post subject: Fastest Workflow Questions |
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Hello,
Im new to JS3 and this forum. Been playing with it for the last 2 weeks or so (around 12 hrs total maybe).
It is a very interesting software and definitely the way forward in music technology. Seems to be a huge jump from prob. based early contenders like slifty, erratic and rps-1.
I have not posted in the support section of the forum, because for me this is not critical , but it is more of an important discussion.
I have got to the point with JS3 where I can make easily come up with pretty good drum tracks for most of the basic rock/punk/metal stuff (Songs where the groove remains mostly the same throughout the song, with variations in intensity, busy-ness, time, hat work etc for different parts). Things get a little more complicated if Im working on a prog metal epic ect (ill advised, but bear with me)...
Based on a thread I read here earlier, I am interested to know what is the fastest workflow for seeding with your own groove and let JS3 do its magic.
In a nutshell :
I define a groove in the drum grid. I turn it to a style.
I add new parts and tweak fills and accents as well as groove settings to my liking.
Questions :
How does locking / unlocking work in the context of the above workflow ? If I turn off/on Auto in the bar area of JS3, isnt that like a lock/unlock ? This auto on/off method is what im using right now.
What if the song needs more than 1 groove, and I dont want to save it as a style ? As in, I do not want manage what will eventually be 100's of styles in various folders. I just want to turn grooves into styles for different parts. From what I see now, it just saves one style now as default and overwrites it everytime. Or am I completely wrong ?
The power knob : How do I set it to different levels for different parts ? It seems to be a song based setting, with an option for MIDI based automation. I would rather set it for different song parts in JS3 rather than write / record a song length power knob automation lane in my DAW.
How do I use the audio jam mode ? Do I need to have at least one part in there for it to work ? And does the DAW transport / play button have to be pressed for it to work. Is there any chance of , for eg : locking the the kick to the live played bass guitar transient ? I know it presently interpets (only?) audio amplitude.
I know thats a lot of questions, but Im quite excited about the software. |
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under_score
Junior Jammer
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Pretty lively forum , no ?
Some experimenting partially answered some of my own queries :
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It actually does save muitple grooves unobtrusively. But I would still need some kinda confirmation from a more exepreineced user or Rayzoon, before I rely on that. For eg : where are they being saved by default ?
The individual power settings for different parts in the song builder seems to still be a complete mystery. Where to define it individually for different parts ?
Is there an echo in here ?[/quote] |
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Kevin_W
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think there is a way to have different power settings other than daw automation. But it is definitely worth it, IMO. For me, learning to automate the power level was the single biggest breakthrough I had while starting to use JS. |
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Junior Jammer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for confirming that. Its quite easy in Reaper, but I was hoping to have a complete solution in JS3 without resorting to MIDI automation. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: |
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How does locking / unlocking work in the context of the above workflow ? If I turn off/on Auto in the bar area of JS3, isnt that like a lock/unlock ? This auto on/off method is what im using right now.
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AUTO in bar editor just controls recomposition logic but does not protect the bar completely. If you need to absolutely keep a bar or part from being touched by Jamstix AI, use the big lock icon on the bar or the lock function in the part menu.
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What if the song needs more than 1 groove, and I dont want to save it as a style ? As in, I do not want manage what will eventually be 100's of styles in various folders. I just want to turn grooves into styles for different parts. From what I see now, it just saves one style now as default and overwrites it everytime. Or am I completely wrong ?
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When you turn a groove into a style, it does reuse the same style file on disk but the actual information is stored in the song project so existing projects are not affected.
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The power knob : How do I set it to different levels for different parts ? It seems to be a song based setting, with an option for MIDI based automation. I would rather set it for different song parts in JS3 rather than write / record a song length power knob automation lane in my DAW.
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Setting song position per part is on the list for Jamstix 4.
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Junior Jammer
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for those conclusive answers.
Much obliged. |
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