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DARN NICE POST(s) on Reaper Forum _ Mar10_2012

 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: DARN NICE POST(s) on Reaper Forum _ Mar10_2012 Reply with quote

I copied some text from a few posts on Reaper Forum last night. Happy to post the link, but the thread was actually a Troll post and different topic. Here is first one:
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Bit of a hijacking of this post, but whatever...

Pipe, have you looked at Jamstix at all? For me, the editor is worth the price of the software alone, even if it didn't do anything else (the 'anything else' the software does is pretty unique and revolutionary, but that's not what I'm talking about here). I don't actually use most of what Jamstix offers in terms of automating the drums, I program 90% or more by hand. All my programming is done within the Jamstix bar editor though.

The bar editor lets you think like a drummer and do things like double click on the left hand slot at a particular location in the bar to add a snare, then right click on the picture of the snare it adds and change the sound to sidestick, rimshot, etc. Then you can adjust the timing of the hit and the velocity using a couple dials. You've also got whatever drum suite you like best subhosted in Jamstix. I generally have Superior loaded.

It's brilliant. It's also arguably better to get really familiar with this as an editor so you can take it with you to any host.

YMMV... just thought I'd throw it out there.

When it comes to drum editing, I wouldn't touch ANY midi editor no matter how good it purports to be. Jamstix is a desert island plugin for me.

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I commented positively and here is a follow-on_different poster:
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Holy crap, that jamstix editor is AWESOME!!! I just watched a youtube video on it. I think it would be too time consuming for transcription (I have a 2 key macro that does tab to transient and then drop a midi note), but for composition it looks unreal. Also seems like it could really humanize well
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First poster responded:
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If you have a free day to play in the studio, it is well worth downloading the Jamstix demo and getting to know the application. It requires a read through the manual, and it is worth it. It was worth it to me anyway.

Your macro method sounds pretty good, actually. I don't think Jamstix is the right tool for that job - I could be completely wrong about this though. Although, manually reproducing instead of automating would be pretty fun to do in Jamstix.

I had to transcribe all the drums on the 'Choke' material in my sig links. The original tape recordings did not hold up well (those mixes, for what they're worth, have the original drums mixed really, really low under the samples I used). The recordings were from around 18 years ago.

I used Toontrack's Drumtracker for doing that. It worked pretty well, although to get a decent degree of accuracy, I had to do some heavy filtering on some of the drum tracks because there was so much bleed on each of them. Not the fault of the software. When given reasonably clean tracks, even with not so prominent transients, it works really well. Slate drum trigger was not released at the time, so I don't know how it compares. I chose Drumtracker over other trigger software because I wanted something that would produce actual midi files that I could tweak and fix. Drum triggers miss hits.

@TFB37 (me)- Cheers. I'm not a 'real' drummer. I have an acoustic kit that I mess around on, and I played in one band many, many years ago, but we never got to the point of gigging. Still, given that limited exposure, I understand the feel and groove required. Jamstix allows for thinking like that. The developer really knows what he's doing. I wonder how good he is on an acoustic kit...

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Another short excerpt _ different poster:
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............... I like the way Reaper does business and love the frequent updates(like x-mas several times a year). I almost never crash Reaper and pretty much all my plug ins work(way cool). I'm gonna check out that Jamstix, i could use some help with drum tracks...
Cheers

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Final one _ another poster:
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I'd hope that a program that costs 7 times more than I paid for my REAPER license is pretty slick but honestly don't care about melodyne integration cos i leave my vocals untuned, if a guitar part isn't right I'll just re track it rather than try and tune individual notes and I don't care about PHD level midi cos all I do is plug in a keyboard and record midi played back through a soft synth and program my drums via Jamstix

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Kinda long, but thought many here would enjoy seeing what users from another Forum had to say. I am now highly motivated to get much more familiar with JS3 Bar Editor and do some totally new and creative things!

Regards,
TB

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