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lucky_bleeder · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: midi out vs internal dll

i just spent the day fiddling around with jamstix and loved it so much i've gone and pre-ordered.

but...one thing is kinda bothering me.

it seems that using jamstix to host dll files is so far not very stable, i've had more crashes today that have locked up my computer and needed a full restart than i have in ages, and always when trying to load vsti's.

Ableton Live 4.1 is the worst offender crashes are completely unpredictable, it stalls and splutters fairly regularly .
Drumatic 3 usually works but not always, Short circuit won't load its interface, Sfz sometimes works is quite stable though.

Anyways, it seems to make perfect sense to me to forget about hosting other plug ins and merely use Jamstix as a high falutin mfx. The midi out ought to alow me to trigger other vsti's and modules but after several hours of frustration i've got nowhere, either i'm really stoopid and have missed something obvious..... or it just doesn't work.

So how about an extra midi pipe kinda plug ( audioM8 style thing in reverse ) that sends midi from jamstix to another track to trigger a vst /external module and thus negates the need to sort out all the hosting malarky ?

ooh yes ...and theres a little bug in Sonar 4 that means tool tips don't stay long enough to read them.

cheers

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Hi Lucky,
Thanks for pre-ordering!

lucky_bleeder · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

hmmmm

thanks for your quick response.

my machine ...

p4 2.8 laptop
1gig ram
winxp sp1
motu 828mkII firewire
external usb2 drive

troublesome hosts...

ableton live 4.1
sonar 4
fruity loops 5.02

every vsti i have tried has crashed at some point some survive more tweakage than others, but the issue is general stability.

I also notice that it always takes two attempts to load a dll, after the first time i select and press open it returns to the dll browser i open again and then it works.

I suspect that this may be significant. Confused

weaverid · Jammer Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 36

I also can't help but comment on Jamstix stability when using external DLLs. I have Sonar 3 - and Jamstix really has trouble if I invoke an external vst (say rgc sfz free player)... and then try to revert back to the internal drum set. If I try to revert AGAIN to an external vst, I am really asking for trouble. Re-booting Sonar is the only recourse.

I did get Sampletank2XL to work for awhile. But it eventually froze after 5 minutes.

Also - the Jamstix automatic help tips box (place mouse pointer over any button) flashes like crazy and is almost impossible to read (using Sonar 3).

I have 1Gb of Ram, 3GHz 60gb hd laptop WinXP.

I'm still having lots of fun with it though.

IW

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

weaverid · Jammer Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 36

I'm using the Sonar supplied dxi wrapper.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Yes, we are able to duplicate this flashing with the Cakewalk VST adapter. It doesn't happen in other hosts nor with DirectiXer. We'll try to find a fix for it.

Thanks!
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