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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Kits won't save properly........ Reply with quote

Anyone else having issues with saving kits? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I re-mapped a bunch of kits (Superior Drummer), & when I re-call/load them, the mapping is wrong.....

I'm not using the sub-host thing, I just want Jamstix to trigger the midi, & send it to the Superior track (which is working fine btw.....).....

Any ideas/tips/help?????

Thanks in advance!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very odd! Can you send me one of those mappings?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump......

I've tried running the daw (Reaper 4) as admin, re-mapped the kit (every piece, all articulations...),saved in the kit file......

When I re-open the song/project in Reaper, the kit is mapped the same as before I did the re-mapping.......

In the step sequencer, the hits I want/added/whatever are there & correct, just the mapping is wrong.....

Using "midi out" in the mixer, to trigger Superior Drummer on another track.......

Do I need to re-install Jamstix? Any help would be appreciated.....

Specs on my setup are:
Gateway PC: AMD Phenom x4 810, 2-1tb hdd's, 8gb RAM, Windows 7
Reaper 4, Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 interface
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I didn't see your reply before I hit "submit" Ralph, how do I send you the mapping (what folder is the mapping in??????).....Sorry to be such a pain, & again, might need to explain this to me like I'm a 5th grader... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you use 'Save Kit', you are just updating the kit file on disk. You need to save the host project to store the changes in the project.

'Save Kit' is there so you can save the kit for use on other projects.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say "save host project", you mean "save/save as" in the daw? Right, if so, I've done that to no avail.......

Thanks Ralph, we'll keep working on it, & I'm sure there's a fix, probably something I'm doing wrong on my end.....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tried changing the hi-hat articulations, & saving the project in Reaper, but when I re-open the song/project, it's back to the same thing......

The problem I'm having is Jamstix isn't "remembering" the articulations I map to Superior Drummer

IE: Superior's mapping for the open 1 hat is: C0 I set the mapping in Jamstix to C0, then save kit, & when I re-open the song/project, it reverts back to D5....
Same thing with SD's "open 3" D0, save, then JS reverts back to D#5......

As long as I have the song/project open in Reaper, & change the hits, it's fine, but when I save/close Reaper, then re-open, the hits go back to the way they were before I re-mapped 'em.......

Im using "Music City USA" in Superior Drummer btw, but it shouldn't make any difference, as long as the mapping is saved, as I'm only triggering another track, not sub-hosting in JS......
Any ideas???
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading jazzmandan's post, this may have something to do with the version of Reaper I'm using......4.11

Any ideas, lemme know Ralph, I absolutely love Jamstix, & hope to iron out the wrinkles soon!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installed Reaper 4.01 & tried, but the same results........
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please repeat the problem (just change one key assignment) and then close REAPER and send me the latest rzdlog.txt from Documents\Jamstix3.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been having the same trouble mapping a kit for BFD ECO, its actually a kit someone uploaded here in the forum but after checking it out it seemed some of the snare articulations were wrong.
It may be that they mapped the kit correctly but the maping didn't stick when they saved the kit.

So i've been tryint to fix it, i started with the snare, mapped the articulations as for BFD ECO, saved and over write the existing kit.
But after closing jamstix, reopening JS3 and loading the new BFD ECO kit the snare articulations are wrong.
Mainly the snare drag won't seen to hold for some reason.

I'm using Reaper 3.78 & JS 3.2.8 on a win 32 bit system.

Cheers

PS: Ralph, could you explain the correct way to load a kit to send midi only to another drum vsti, superior 2 for example.
I'm just not sure if im doing it right or the best way.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the exact same problem I'm having Wolf, I started using one of the provided SD kits, then changed the mapping to what I needed. Even when I save the kit over & over, it still reverts back to the original way it was........

I even reverted back to Reaper 4.01, same thing....
Un-installed/re-installed Jamstix without the update, same thing......

Last night, I re-installed Reaper 4.10, & the hi-hats saved correctly, but now the tom articulations are wrong (only the SD rimshot/ JS offset).....

Maybe I'm doing something wrong too, I dunno. Send the log file to Ralph a little while ago, & I'm positive he'll figure something out for us.....

I'm totally amazed with this software, makes drum programming actually fun, instead of tedious. And, I've only started using it's potential, again, really awesome software Ralph!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you send me the saved kit file?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent the file Ralph, thanks again!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure that you do not change the MIDI key if the articulation says <click to load sound>. Select 'Subhost...' for the sound, then change the key and save. Let me know if that was the problem.

I'll also try to get something into the next update that helps with it on the GUI side.
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