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Trying Out the Demo - Couple of Questions

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:56 am    Post subject: Trying Out the Demo - Couple of Questions Reply with quote

OK, here's my story... I play bass in a band, but we currently have no drummer and have been using an Alesis SR-18 drum machine to create drum tracks for a bunch of the cover songs we play. I'm looking for a software solution that will sound better and be more flexible than the Alesis. I currently plan to do more manual drum part programming than anything, but I like the idea behind the "brain" and will probably find a way to take better advantage of it in the future. Right now, to be honest, I'm looking at it as a way to get good drums sounds on a smaller budget than what I would need for EZD, AD, etc.

I've downloaded the JS3 demo, and I'm using it in Reaper. I've read through the quickstart guide and several sections of the manual, and I've got a couple of questions that are going to be key to helping decide whether to give JS3 a try:

- I've tried to create a snare roll in the bar editor to see how it sounds, and I can't get it to play when I preview the bar. Is this possible in the demo?

- Same thing for a cymbal choke

- Is there a hand clapping sound with any of the stock kits or do I have to buy a pak for that? If so, which one?

- Is there any documentation that spells out which kits are available in the demo? I've tried several that don't do anything or just give a kick sound.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Trying Out the Demo - Couple of Questions Reply with quote

Dave_Carter wrote:

- I've tried to create a snare roll in the bar editor to see how it sounds, and I can't get it to play when I preview the bar. Is this possible in the demo?

Yes, that is possible. If you play your roll with the host (not preview), do you get red crosses on the notes?

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- Same thing for a cymbal choke

Chokes in JS work like a real drummer. Let's say you have a crash on the right hand on beat 2. Just place a choke note on the left hand a 16th after.

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- Is there a hand clapping sound with any of the stock kits or do I have to buy a pak for that? If so, which one?

Hand clapping comes with the XL version.

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- Is there any documentation that spells out which kits are available in the demo? I've tried several that don't do anything or just give a kick sound.

If you only hear kick, make sure 'Downmix' is checked in the JS3 mixer or connect all audio outputs in REAPER.

The demo has just a limited set of the standard kit so you should stick to 'Standard' in the 'Rock' folder. You can also see missing sounds, if any, listed in the kit window if you load a kit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help. I think I got it all worked out except the roll. It appears that anytime the "hit style" is set to "bounced," the sound doesn't play. If I just do several sequential snare hits, they play, but not a roll that used "bounced" style hits. And no, there are not red X's over the hits in the bar editor when they play.

Any thoughts?

BTW, I mostly used the Standard Classic kit, but I tried some others, too, and had the same result.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bounce samples are not included in the demo. If you got the kit editor, select the snare bounce articulation and choose 'No Sound' for it, JS should play your bounced notes albeit using normal hit samples.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite not directly related to the question, this bounce articulation doesn't work for me anymore. Since JS2 I didn't try it, but if I set bounce to no sound, it would produce a bounce sound. But JS3 doesn't produce any if I set the bounce key to --, nothing is played when a bounce appears in the song. I'm using MIDI Out only, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying you are setting the bounce sound MIDI key to none?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, to none. And then nothing happens, every time a bounce is in the song, there's no sound.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any specific reason why you want MIDI at none? It should work if you assign a key.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I want to use external drums that have no ´bounce´ articulation. JS2 worked fine without a key assigned to bounce.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill check that out.
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