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sonicviz · Grand Master Jam Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 287

Hi,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Taae2zLfA has a really nice groove.

Any tips on the best way to approximate it with JS3?

Playing around at the moment with it, but interested in other JS users opinions.

ty!

sonicviz · Grand Master Jam Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 287

8th rock and roger comes close, but how can I get those cool little snare rolls?

rcraig42 · Jam Meister Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 97

Try Phil, in the accents tab, experiment with the ghosts and buzzing. In the fills tab, keep the repeat fill length half or less, enable them in the song sheet, and turn the toms down and the snare up in the fills tab. Adjust the Simple and Vary knobs to taste.

Keep the part length at 4 or 8 and however many reps you need.

sonicviz · Grand Master Jam Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 287

ty! I stuck with Roger, just copied over the buzz from phil (not a big fan of phil, even a virtual one;-)

Seemed to work, need to tweak a little more.

thanks for the tip.

Klemperer · Junior Jammer Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 16

rcraig42 · Jam Meister Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 97

Well, lately, most of what I have been doing has been "dressing up" covers for my band, and I have found for most of the classic rock stuff we do, the Phil model does it best. He rarely, if ever, skips the down beat snare on 2, and he adds all those snare effects. One being the the ghost snare on 4 and a half. Which adds a lot to the feel on many occasions.

Strangely, for my own originals I find Carter to work the best, and mostly his snare skips don't usually matter as much on those songs.

Phil also has some decent open hats additions. Which is one thing I am having a kind of hard time doing lately with some songs. This last week I was doing backing tracks for White Room and Interstate Love Song, and Mark seemed to be the best overall, but I need more open hats than he provides. And it seemed to work when I added the open hats accents from Aaron, and that helped at first, but when I mixed it down, they all seemed to disappear.

Klemperer · Junior Jammer Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 16

Wow, rcraig42, a great read. Your post shows me you're far more the leading brain using JS3 than I am, having to rely more on the inbuilt one, he he Very Happy

. I'm still doing things too randomly, or by ear ("now does this sound how I want - no? Hmmm, let's try this, and here are the accents, let's see..").

From what I read it reminds me of a post susiwong made back in 2008 at KVR forum, in a thread about the bonzo pack. The more you guys exactly know what you're after, the better you can built your own players...That's what he always seems to do, gets in some basic idea, lets Jamstix play, copying this from Carter, that from Phil and so on.
I guess for me Jamstix is still more of a learning tool, and drums certainly were the weakest part in my songs up to now, (even if I recently had the first opportunity ever to play drums myself in a room some lucky friends got after searching for 5 years^^. Tremendously helpful experience for using Jamstix now...)
cheers, and good luck with your sounds, really an inspiring reading.

rcraig42 · Jam Meister Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 97

Frankly I was just like you when I started using the program, and I still tend to accept most of what the program comes up with as far as fills, accents and variations. I just learned a lot by jumping in and actually creating the drum parts for covers. It forces you to really listen to what the drummers are doing, the timing etc. that gets certain feels... And to find out which drummers tendencies fit best with with each song.

Unfortunately, my band (bass, lead and computer) has only done one song that actually was played by one of the modeled drummers; Enter Sandman.... and Lars worked fantastically well on it, even the fills tended to match up without any tweaking.