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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:55 am Post subject: Slow Blues in 12/8 |
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| How do I get Jamstix to do a slow blues (65pbm) in 12/8? I've tried setting the time signature to 12/8 in my host (Reaper) and loading the quickstart Blues song but I get weird behavior and it doesn't sound right. Any tips? |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Which Jamstix version? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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http://www.rayzoon.com |
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, version 3. I should add, that I'm looking to have triplets played on the high hats. |
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| No one knows how to do this? |
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stratman_3142 Junior Jammer

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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If you want a blues shuffle feel, leave Reaper at 4/4. Click on the shuffle button in Jamstix 3 and select 8th shuffle. That will give you s 12/8 type blues shuffle, which is a delayed off beat (i.e. 1 and 3) but not 1,2,3 per beat. (see pic at link below).
http://shup.com/Shup/420574/Shuffle.png
You can select 12/8 by clicking on the numbers in the Bars column (see pic at link below), but the beats don't appear to be subdivided into triplets, which is what I would have expected for 12/8. But I might be missing something.
http://shup.com/Shup/420572/Time-Sig-12_8.png
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the suggestion Stratman but I know how to get a shuffle feel. I'm looking for a drum style that's bog standard in a slow blues and that's a triplet feel on the high hats. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I would set the host to 12/8 and use the '6/8 Blues' style. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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stratman_3142 Junior Jammer

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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that Ralph.
As a matter of interest, what also seems to work in Reaper 3.71 is the following:-
Select 12/8 in Reaper.
In Jamstix 3, in the drop down menu (just to the left of the Wizard button) select Clear Song. Jamstix then picks up the 12/8 time signature.
Now Load the 6/8 blues style.
To get the correct tempo you need to multiply by 3/2 in Reaper. So, for example, if you need 120bpm in 12/8, you set the tempo to 180 in Reaper.
btw. I've now worked out that for 12/8, in the JS bar editor, the following numbers correspond to the 'on beats'. Sorry, I'd missed that before.
'The 1' corresponds to 1 in JS in the JS bar editor
'The 2' corresponds to 4 in JS in the JS bar editor
'The 3' corresponds to 7 in the JS bar editor
'The 4' corresponds to 10 in the JS bar editor
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for your help guys. I've tried your suggestions and its a cool beat for sure, but its not the standard slow blues type drum pattern I was looking for. Ralph, perhaps you might consider adding such a style to a future version of jamstix. It's a classic and I'm sure lots of people would find a use for it. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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m_lin: can you send me a brief MP3 example of the groove you're looking for? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph, I emailed you an mp3 that illustrates the style I'm talking about. I hope it helps. |
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Just an update: You can get the kind of 12/8 beat I was looking for. I just needed to play with the brain a bit more. Thanks Ralph and Stratman! |
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sonicviz Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| m_lin wrote: | | Just an update: You can get the kind of 12/8 beat I was looking for. I just needed to play with the brain a bit more. Thanks Ralph and Stratman! |
I'd be interested in testing this as I'd like to do something with it.
Could you post a sample song showing how you did it?
ty! |
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m_lin Junior Jammer

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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| sonicviz wrote: | | m_lin wrote: | | Just an update: You can get the kind of 12/8 beat I was looking for. I just needed to play with the brain a bit more. Thanks Ralph and Stratman! |
I'd be interested in testing this as I'd like to do something with it.
Could you post a sample song showing how you did it?
ty! |
It's really too simple. Just take the bass drum busy knob and the snare drum busy knob and drag them down to their lowest levels. Stratman's advice on calculating tempo is right on. It's dead easy. My only mistake was not realizing that I had to fiddle with the brain. |
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