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Suggestion: Drummer's work should follow song tempo!

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Suggestion: Drummer's work should follow song tempo! Reply with quote

Hello Forum!

I know this can be done manually in the groove and accent section of each drummer, but it would be grat and very realistic if this could be implemented as "standard action".

I am sure Jamstix can read the song tempo from the host and should act like follows:

At slower song tempos the drummer has enough time to vary his drumming, "fooling around" with his drumsticks, using more complex fills and accents.

But the faster the song tempo is, the tighter and "easier" the drummer has to play to stay in time and groove.

At really fast tempos he can do nothing than hitting the basic groove or skipping some hits.

So it's like an "automated complexity slider" depending on the song tempo. What do you think about this?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very good idea to be developed, because it's not always this way. Sometimes the drummer focuses more when at a slower tempo and then goes free as the tempo speeds up. But this is a nice idea to discuss.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An example:

Chooose one of the funky drum styles and a drummer of your choice, keep all brain settings at their values, set song temp to 150 and press play....

Sounds awful and robotic! No drummer could play this. So what you have to do is fiddle around with all these knobs and sliders until you get a natural and real sounding drum track.

My idea is that Jamstix should always produce realisic drum tracks by default. That's what I intended with my first post. If you want it the (or some) other way, you still have your sliders to play with.

But since I am a guitar player and not a drummer, I don't want to spend too much time on tweaking and fiddling with Jamstix. Please don't get me wrong here, Jamstix is great and has much flexibility and endless options for creativity. I just want to say that the default result should always be a natural and realistic one. Use the sliders if you want it more complex and not less.

That's my idea.


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Ralph [RZ]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good idea. Let's see if we can implement this. Please also play with the limb speeds in 'Options'. If you 'slow down' the drummers abilities you should hear simplified grooves at high BPMs already.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I try that.

Thanks Ralph, this would be a very good feature if itīs doable.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb idea!!! Wink Wink
That's why I love this kind of interaction. Everybody comes and gives their share of contribution. And we've had some real bright ideas coming up. Go ahead Ralph, work out one more trick! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YEP YEP YEP!!! I'm trying to make 300bpm fastcore/punk sorta stuff, and am finding Jamstix useless and incomprehensible. Sure it's good for christian rock, but what about us satanists (lol), that require short/sharp/precise blastcore beats??

(CHARLIE is good, and a 2-beat rock, but hopelessly fails at high bpm!)
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