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 Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: Locked measure/forced hits - don't play the same each time |
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Can someone help me here? I've got a bar that has 1/8 sig (the song is 4/4, the 1/8 sig bar is sandwiched between two 2/4 sig bars).
I have manually placed a snare and a kick in the first beat of the measure (labelled "1" at the top) , and also in the 2nd beat ("-"). I want a snare and kick note in each of the two beats of the 1/8 measure every time I play the song.
What happens is that no matter how many times I back up to the beginning of the song and play through the measure, it is unpredictable whether I will get a snare/kick beat in each beat of the 1/8 measure, or just in one of them.
I have the note locked (yellow bar up the side); the bar locked; forced hits "on" for each of the two beats of the measure; shuffle off for the measure; and kick/snare grooves disabled in the brain for the measure.
What am I not doing, or doing wrong here?
Thanks!
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Did you set-up each part in JS2 with the correct time signature?
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alexis
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | Did you set-up each part in JS2 with the correct time signature? |
If you mean in the Song List, absolutely. Thanks for your answer! If you want me to send the file, please let me know its name and location ... and do I email to you?
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Please email me the project file.
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I actually need the project file, not log files.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | I actually need the project file, not log files. |
OK, thanks Ralph. Would you please tell me the specific name and location of the project file? I saw that nice info for the log files in the JS2 manual, may have missed it for the project file =
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The project file is the file that you save to in your host.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | The project file is the file that you save to in your host. |
I'm sorry for being such an idiot, Ralph - do you want my SX3 project file?
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It might be best just to send me the JS2 song file. Load the project, go to the song menu, use 'Save Song' and send me that file.
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alexis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | It might be best just to send me the JS2 song file. Load the project, go to the song menu, use 'Save Song' and send me that file. |
Done last night, thanks Ralph!
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I'll check it out as soon as I can.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | I'll check it out as soon as I can. |
Thanks, Ralph!
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| alexis wrote: | | Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | I'll check it out as soon as I can. |
Thanks, Ralph! |
Hi Ralph - While waiting, I had an idea I tried out, here are the results, maybe it will help in your troubleshooting.
First, in Song, I muted fills and accents. That did not make a difference - it was still random and unpredictable whether both single drum hits were played in the 1/8 measure.
Then I thought to rearrange my sig, so there was not a 1/8 measure, but rather a 5/8 measure. With the song accent and fills still muted, the two drum hits in what was previously the 1/8 measure were played every single time.
I haven't gone and seen whether unmuting would affect that, but at least as of now, my conclusions are:
1) JS2 had a hard time playing the programmed hits in the abrupt transition from a 2/4 measure to a 1/4 measure.
2) JS2 did fine as long as there wasn't a 1/8 measure (like going 2/4 to 5/8 ).
So maybe a single bar of 1/8 is too much expected?
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts so far and for the future too!
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I've looked at your project and the problem appears to be the shortness of the 1/8 bar. For something as unusual as this song structure, I recommend you export parts from JS to the host, switch Jamstix to drum module mode and finalize the MIDI in the host.
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | I've looked at your project and the problem appears to be the shortness of the 1/8 bar. For something as unusual as this song structure, I recommend you export parts from JS to the host, switch Jamstix to drum module mode and finalize the MIDI in the host. |
Thanks, Ralph. I've got it working by simply putting the 1/8 measure at the tail end of the previous measure. I'll keep your suggestion in mind for future troubleshooting.
Thanks again!
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