Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[dave_siddons]

Hi Guys,

I am in a complete mess/ Have to rebuild PC used for recording. Come to reinstall Jamstix from scratch and just can’t get it right and it looks on my download page that the download files are all different to the ones I first downloaded (expired now).

I try installing jamstix 1 first then all its drums then J2 then J2 2 drums then additional purchased paks then the 2.5 update. Loads of sounds seem to be missing from old and new kits (too numerous to mention.

What I run (in order and accepting defaults) is the following (including file sizes for info)

8,774,105 jamstix_setup.exe
285,739,561 jamstix_data_setup.exe
6,525,805 jamstix2_setup.exe
11,204,659 jamstix2_update_2_5_0.exe

Unpack and copy .dll
1,862,350 jamstix251_beta2.zip

Then add paks through Jamstix
89,803,791 jamstix2_stock_kit.rxp2
277,492,727 DrumPak #2.rxp
71,323,192 SnarePak.rxp
11,367,404 ePak.rxp
97,585,738 BrushPak.rxp

All help much appreciated.

Cheers

Dave Siddons

[Ralph [RZ]]

Please go to your download page and install the XL Pak. This should take care of the missing sounds.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[dave_siddons]

Cheers.. Will try tonight...

Is the order shpwn above correct

[Ralph [RZ]]

All correct but:

- you can skip Jamstix 1 if you don't need it
- you can skip the JS1 Paks if you load XL Pak
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[dave_siddons]

cheers Ralph. All sound now.

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Hi guys........

Joining in this post as I also now face having to re-install everything on new computer. Would like to ensure cleanest install with max data from JS 1.8 up to latest. What hasn't been asked or answered here is as follows:
1. I do not wish to use JS 1.8 programme again and therefore would not need to re-install - BUT there seem to be loads of rythms, accents, addons & arrangements that do not come with JS 2 which I would want to have installed. Q.- which of the above folder contents are not replicated in JS 2 and to install them can I simply extract these from the JS 1.8 zipped package, without installing the programme?
2. You mention that XL Pak replaces JS 1.8 (assume you refer to JamPaks #1 and #2) but there is a 40Mb file size difference. Am I being ridiculous - did you manage to compress the XL package more efficiently or does XL contain slightly less sample?
3. Where should JS 1.8 rythms, accents etc folders be made to live in the JS 2 folder tree (assuming they are additional to anything that came with the JS 2 package)?
4. How imminent is the next JS 2 upgrade and should I best wait 3-4 days for it to be released before starting the re-install?

I think that's it for now. I'm assuming I can still access my download page IF necessary and I will follow Dave's step-by-step when it comes to it.
Thanks in advance for your help.

[Ralph [RZ]]

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Many thanks Ralph. The speed of your response is as always - brilliant. I'll go at it tomorrow with a clear head.

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Hi Ralph....
Am following on this thread after re-installing JS1 & JS2. My new computer came with Vista. I have followed the advice to install JS programmes outside of the C:\Programs folder. I instead created 2 new folders directly in C:\ and called them Jamstix 1 and Jamstix 2. I believe that does not pose a problem. I installed JS1 from original install pack through to v.1.81. I then installed JS2 from original install pack through the upgrades to v.2.5. I carefully noted the default folders created by your programmes and have not altered or added to them. However......

1. JS2 install created a "Fills" folder, but left it empty. Is that right.
2. In your response to my earlier query about what parts of JS1 can be used in JS2, you imply fills by saying "fills in the fills folder", but JS1 install did not create a "Fills" folder and I don't see where there are any JS1 fills to move to JS2 "Fills" folder.
3. JS1 install creates an "Accents" folder containing 242 files. JS2 install does not create an "Accents" folder but in JS2 Bar Editor, there is a facility from the green arrow to "Load Accent". I go this route and point to C:\Jamstix 1\Accents, but the window does not populate to allow me to choose an accent to load. What's wrong here? Additionally, the window header reads "Load JS2 Fill" instead of "Accent". Does that suggest a bigger problem?
4. I can't load a "Fill" by this method as my JS2 install did not supply any fills in the Fill folder that the install created. Did you not include any fills? Is this a folder for us users to populate when we make our own fills?
5. JS2 install created a "Grooves" folder - but also empty. Is that right? You also mentioned in last response that we could use JS1 "Rythms" in JS2 by moving them manually to JS2 "Grooves" folder. I tried this by moving 1 file to test, but where within the JS2 interface do you access it? If the JS2 install that created the "Grooves" folder left it empty and my manually moving JS1 "Rythms" to JS2 "Grooves" folder remains blind to me, where are preset grooves coming from? The "Groove Weight" refers to the list of Groove Maps supplied with JS2 and obviously something different.

In conclusion, it appears to me at the moment that nothing of JS1 is usable in JS2, but JS2 allows for loading an Accent and JS1 was supplied with 242 of them. You say JS1 Rythms can be used in JS2 which it calls Grooves and finally you mentioned "Fills to Fills", but none came with JS1 and JS2 Fills folder installed to my computer empty.

I'm therefore confused. JS2 is running apparently quite smoothly now in Sonar 7 Studio under Vista. It looks like (after a quick check) that all my sounds are there, but for us non-drummers the ability to load one of your ready-made 242 Accents, 300 or so Rythms and any Fills that are to be had is what makes this programme so attractive - besides all the other things it has going for it. So - please point me to any relevant help and excuse me if the answers are contained in the manual or just plain obvious. I have spent all afternoon scouring the forums to grab bits and pieces, but found nothing to help with these matters.

If nothing of JS1 can be used in JS2, please make that clear and I'll simply free up hard disc space - but I'm sure there is indication in JS2 manual that Fills & Accents can be imported - but why my problem?

Sorry to take your time away from coding for the MAC and other dev.

[Ralph [RZ]]

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Ralph - You've got to be the fastest 'gun' in the West. That was an amazing turnaround.

I had just stumbled on the "Import" command in the JS2 Bar Editor even as your reply was winging its way to me. It reads "import JS1 Fill" and points me straight to my C:\Jamstix 1\Accents folder and there are the files. So JS1 Accents are JS2 Fills - right? BUT, are they all fills or at least can they all be treated as fills?

Thanks also for pointing me to Import JS1 Fills from the JS2 Part Menu.
This one I should have picked up from the manual which I was just about to read through again.

And I fully understand your comment on JS2 not really needing these presets due to its own production engine. You've proved yourself a genius with developing that - just that listening to some presets, then short-listing some and then playing over the 2 or 3 favourites over and again to make your choice is somehow easier for me. How can that process be followed in JS2 as easily. I appreciate you can keep hitting the "recompose" button, but to then how to save 10 and then shortlist to 3 etc.? I suppose I'm really referring to Fills.

Not complaining at all. I'm totally happy now with your help and the product - just wait for your final answers which might help others on the forum.

Cheers - you're the man

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I did mean "thanks for pointing me to the Import JS1 Rythm from the JS2 Part Menu".

[Ralph [RZ]]