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munmun
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 Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: BFD2 Upgrade question |
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I own BFD 1.5. My computer is a P4 2.4GHz with 1GB RAM and running XP. I want to upgrade to BFD2 and run it within Sonar. Everything I read suggests that my computer will croak under the weight of BFD2. Please let me know if I am mistaken. I have decided to upgrade to Dual Core and 2GB RAM (i.e. new CPU, memory card, ram).
Two questions:
- should I upgrade or stay with current set up? Did consider only upgrading RAM but in a year I will probably have to upgrade the whole thing anyway.
- if you are running BFD2 successfully- what are the specs of your system?
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Amberience
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Definitely upgrade your computer. Don't keep a dinosaur around when you can get a sweet ass setup for very little money nowadays.
I run BFD2 on a iMac running windows, c2d, 1gb ram - you will benefit from haivng 2gb. I'm upgrading next week to 2gb ram.
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heyjohn
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using DFHS, not BFD of any form, but the basic issue is the same: those drumkits cache a lot of samples in RAM.
I upgraded my system recently to a Core2Duo (E6850) 3GHz, with 3GB of RAM, running WinXP-Home. Storage is 1TB of RAID (two 500GB SATA disks using the on-motherboard Intel RAID controller). Audio is a Mackie Onyx mixer over firewire.
I tend to run things like Tracktion3, Amplitube, other guitar processors, Sonar Home Studio, as well as Jamstix and DFHS/C&V.
The old Athlon XP box I had would flat-out choke on the load, but this upgraded box has a hard time hitting 20% on the CPU meter, and I haven't run into any issues with RAM.
Note that there are issues on XP between 3 and 4GB of RAM, and I decided to just put in 2 sticks of 1GB and 2 sticks of 512MB rather than see what happens. There are also possible issues with Vista or 64-bit Windows, depending on what your software and drivers support... So I was conservative, since my music-creating PC is supposed to be an escape from computer work for me...  |
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munmun
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| heyjohn wrote: | I'm using DFHS, not BFD of any form, but the basic issue is the same: those drumkits cache a lot of samples in RAM.
I upgraded my system recently to a Core2Duo (E6850) 3GHz, with 3GB of RAM, running WinXP-Home. Storage is 1TB of RAID (two 500GB SATA disks using the on-motherboard Intel RAID controller). Audio is a Mackie Onyx mixer over firewire.
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Noticed you did not upgrade to quad core. A few on other boards have suggested that this is the thing to do. However, it costs a fair bit more. Any thoughts on quad vs duo? |
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tombuur
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Just upgraded a core 2 duo to quad and got a nice reduction in cpu usage using Cubase, usually running DFHS as drum sampler.
About BFD2, I also wonder whether to upgrade (have BFD1) or wait for Superior 2. I read in the fxpansion forum that BFD2 still has problems with a realistic hihat. But does jamstix 2 care about this?
BFD2 will not make the right sound if you hit the hihat and the close it partially, but DFHS is said to do that. (I have not checked myself). But does Jamstix use this feature or would that only be for e-drummers? |
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ProfRhino
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| munmun wrote: |
Noticed you did not upgrade to quad core. A few on other boards have suggested that this is the thing to do. However, it costs a fair bit more. Any thoughts on quad vs duo? |
If your host supports it (hey, we're close to the end of '08 !  ) by all means go Quad. Expect approximately 50% to 70% more performance than a dual core @ the same speed, depending on the application.
The sweet spot price/performancewise is the Q9450 atm, just hitting the stores. The popular (and good) Q6600 and Q6700 chips are not interesting any more for a new build.
If you already have one of those however, keep cool, the next sensible upgrade is still a year or so away. 
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heyjohn
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| munmun wrote: | | Noticed you did not upgrade to quad core. A few on other boards have suggested that this is the thing to do. However, it costs a fair bit more. Any thoughts on quad vs duo? |
At the time, the quad-core chips had 2 different steppings, one of which was supposed to run hotter and be less energy-efficient. Also, I use Tracktion3, and there was a good bit of uncertainty that it did any better with quad-core.
And at the same price, I could have 2 cores at 3.0GHz, or 4 at 2.66GHz. There was also some question as to how well WinXP did with 4 cores... so I just decided to go with the faster clock and less chance of terminally confused Windows stuff. Turns out to have worked great for me -- but these issues may have all been worked out by now, maybe you can do even better! 
My next system upgrade will be for my Linux box, which likely will get quad-core: nothing there will be confused, and everything can/will use it Just Fine. But I'll put off that purchase for a while more, in hopes that CPU prices will do their usual thing: drop while I procrastinate |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| tombuur wrote: | | BFD2 will not make the right sound if you hit the hihat and the close it partially, but DFHS is said to do that. (I have not checked myself). But does Jamstix use this feature or would that only be for e-drummers? |
Jamstix 2 by itself will not issue a new CC4 value without a new note so it would not be a problem.
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