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Excersize in changing time signatures with Jamstix 2

 
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christian Steffensen
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Excersize in changing time signatures with Jamstix 2 Reply with quote

I have made a drumtrack excersize where Jamstix changes time signatures every eighth bar.
Style:”Custom rock”
Drummer: „Noah“
Drumkit: „Natural Kit“ from metal pak
Host sequencer: Cubase 4.1

Bar 1-8: 4/4
Bar 9-16 3/4
Bar 17-24 4/4
Bar 25-32 12/8
Bar 33-40 4/4
Bar 41-48 7/8
Bar 49-57 4/4
Bar 58-65 9/8

Some of the grooves sounds a bit dull to me. Like jamstix just cuts off a beat in ex. 3/4 compared to 4/4. I havn’t done much with JS2 other than made a song with parts in each time signature and placed time signature changes in the right bars in the host. I am doing fine, when i make drumtracks in 4/4, but i want to learn ways to make drumtracks in odd time signatures

You can ask for the song as a .mp3 file, a Cubase-project file .cpr and a Jamstix Song- file .j2d, and i will send them your support mail. It it quite small.

Thanking you in advance
Christian
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Ralph [RZ]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Excersize in changing time signatures with Jamstix 2 Reply with quote

christian Steffensen wrote:

Some of the grooves sounds a bit dull to me. Like jamstix just cuts off a beat in ex. 3/4 compared to 4/4.

The final groove depends on the style setting. Some grooves will just be 'cut off' when going from 4/4 to 3/4. I recommend you select a 3/4 style for that part, such as a waltz, or try the 'Prog Metal' style from MetalPak, if you own it.
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christian Steffensen
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say i working on a rock tune, and i want the drumtrack in the style of "custom rock". I wouldn't think, the drums could change to a waltz in the middle of the song. Surprised Maybe. I think, there is the same problem when i play grooves in some of the other time signatures.
Are there good grooves in odd meters in the "prog metal" style? I recently bought it, but i work on a rock tune and prog metal sounds to me like something with a lot of double kick drum pedals. Again, i could change the drummer.
Can i do anything using the "groove weights" menu? I haven't used it yet.
It could be cool if JS could play, let's say breakbeats in 9/8 Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

christian Steffensen wrote:
Let's say i working on a rock tune, and i want the drumtrack in the style of "custom rock". I wouldn't think, the drums could change to a waltz in the middle of the song. Surprised

Don't let the word 'Waltz' scare you. A 'waltz' is simply a form of dance for a 3/4 rhythm. This is far closer than a 'rock groove', which by definition is always a 4/4 since it has a backbeat (snare on 2,4).

There are few defined rhythms for odd time sigs, such as 'Rock' for 4/4 so what JS2 does with those sigs is trying to fit the selected style into the time sig, much as a human drummer would do. Many styles can be influenced by groove weights so please experiment with those a bit to see what tickles your fancy.
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