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acabreira
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 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: Some crashes andn some suggestions |
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Hi, Ralph, I was experimenting all over the menu options to understand the way JS 2 works and last time I clicked on ´clear song´, I had an ´Access Violation´ crash and then the interface gone mad, although it did not close. Some parts kept visible and the buttons that were visible were even active, but nothing happened anymore and it stopped sounding. As an information, it even keeps syncing with the host. I´ve had other ´Access Violation´ crashes when dealing with sub hosted plugins (BFD in my case), but I can´t recall the exact pattern. I´ll keep investigating.
There´s another problem: when I´m in the Kit Editor and go to the assignment window, whenever I try to load or unload a sound to a kit piece (let´s say load ´subhost´ to a snare or ´no sound´to a crash), JS 2x goes mute. I have to press twice the freeze button to have it sounding again.
Fortunately the mappings bug have been solved in the hotfix, thanks.
Now for the suggestions, there´s something that´s not a bug, but a lack of a feature. Let´s say you want to use MIDI Out only, there´s not such option as ´MIDI out´in the sound selection. You have to select ´Subhost : Not Loaded´ or an internal sample; if you select an internal sample, even though it doesn´t play, it takes up memory. If you select ´Subhost : Not Loaded´, that´s ok, but let´s say you want to load a subhost for drums and then wants to send some percussion to an external instrument: there´s no way of doing this.
Another thing I´d love to see is being able to use mouse wheel to edit velocity of a cell or openness of the hat (let´s say wheel alone controlling the velocity and alt+wheel controlling hat openness.
About song parts, I second BifFlipper´s words:
| BitFlipper wrote: | Just a question related to the number of parts...
Why the limit of 18 parts maximum? I realize most people won't need that many but you have to think that someone somewhere would need more. Is it a technical limitation or just an arbitrary limitation?
Also, I realize space is at a premium, but it would have been really nice if the part showed at which measure it started in the song (instead of just length and repetitions). Sometimes it is not clear at what measure you need to put the host to start play back at a certain part in Jamstix. Not hard to figure out with some trial and error but it would have been nice...
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I agree with BitFlipper in his points, mostly with the limitation of 18 parts. I personally would like to use more than 18 parts in some complex projects, but maybe that´s me only.
That said, things like the fill and accent generator, part driven brain, creating grooves from scratch and deep editing of every single hit by hand are fantastic, some priceless features. I´m totally dependant of JS to create drum parts today, that´s way so many considerations. I´m pretty sure also that JS 2 will be rock solid much faster that JS 1.
Thanks so lot, Ralph. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Some crashes andn some suggestions |
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| acabreira wrote: | Let´s say you want to use MIDI Out only, there´s not such option as ´MIDI out´in the sound selection.
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There is a MIDI Out Only option in the mixer.
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Some crashes andn some suggestions |
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| acabreira wrote: | when I´m in the Kit Editor and go to the assignment window, whenever I try to load or unload a sound to a kit piece (let´s say load ´subhost´ to a snare or ´no sound´to a crash), JS 2x goes mute.
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I'm trying to replicate this. What host is that with and is it playing at that time? Any other details you can think of?
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acabreira
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Some crashes andn some suggestions |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | acabreira wrote: | Let´s say you want to use MIDI Out only, there´s not such option as ´MIDI out´in the sound selection.
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There is a MIDI Out Only option in the mixer. |
Yep, but not in the individual pieces selection, so I can´t send a kit piece MIDI outside Jamstix if I have a subhost loaded without loading internal samples.
| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | acabreira wrote: | when I´m in the Kit Editor and go to the assignment window, whenever I try to load or unload a sound to a kit piece (let´s say load ´subhost´ to a snare or ´no sound´to a crash), JS 2x goes mute.
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I'm trying to replicate this. What host is that with and is it playing at that time? Any other details you can think of? |
Playing or not, the same happens. Have tested in Cubase SX3, still going to test in Samplitude 9.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Some crashes andn some suggestions |
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| acabreira wrote: | Yep, but not in the individual pieces selection, so I can´t send a kit piece MIDI outside Jamstix if I have a subhost loaded without loading internal samples.
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I'm confused. Checking 'MIDI Out' will cause JS2 to neither load internal samples or load any specified subhosted DLL but it will send MIDI data in that format. Please elaborate if I'm not getting the point (kinda tired, too)...
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Playing or not, the same happens. Have tested in Cubase SX3, still going to test in Samplitude 9.
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Any info you can give me on this as you continue investigating JS2 will be greatly appreciated. Really wanna kill that bug...
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acabreira
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Well, after downloading 2.0.4 I haven´t come across access violations anymore, but have yet to mess around with all the menus 
Also I gave you some misinformation, in the sound editor JS only stops playing when I´m trying to assign a slot to ´subhost - ...´ and it´s playing. When it´s stopped it works fine.
| Quote: | | I'm confused. Checking 'MIDI Out' will cause JS2 to neither load internal samples or load any specified subhosted DLL but it will send MIDI data in that format. Please elaborate if I'm not getting the point (kinda tired, too)... |
Even if the MIDI Out only is checked, if you choose one of the internal samples for a slot, it still loads them although doesn´t play. It´s easily verifiable in the kit window, where the amount of memory used is shown beside the watch. What I´m saying is if I load a subhost but want to send a sound to MIDI Out, the only option that takes up no additional memory is ´subhost - ...´ and then choose a key that doesn´t match a piece within the subhosted instrument, so I might have to remap in the external VSTi. That´s ok, but it would be very useful if more than ´no sound´, ´subhost - ...´ or an internal sample, we had an specific ´MIDI Out´ only option for each slot that would not send any key |
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