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bobseekone Junior Jammer

Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: Q:What have you found to be the best way to use Jamstix? |
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I have just started using Jamstix and I think it's amazing! For fun, I try playing some keyboard parts and play 'stump the drummer!' Well, so far I am impressed by how JS keeps up with me.
OK - here's my question: What have you found to be the best way to use Jamstix? I'm trying to write some new songs. I've tried playing piano parts to generate a rhythm track. I've also tried to play bass lines (MIDI) to see what JS comes up with. In my limited experience I've liked the variations JS makes (I'm using FreeJam) when I play a full keyboard part rather than just a bass line. I am going to try plugging in my electric bass into the Audio input and see if that makes a difference.
Anyway, I thought it would be instructive to have people talk about what they've tried and what works well and what doesn't work so well. Anyone care to comment on what gives the best results with Jamstix? |
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KennyC Jammer

Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, Bob,
I'm sure you'll get responses running the full range of JS's capabilities and everyone will develop their own way of doing things.
Speak strictly for myself, here, I'm not a drummer but I know how drums should be played, for the most part. My music is NOT beat-oriented, so, I don't let the "drummer" write the song.
I like to lay down other tracks to a click (either midi or audio) but I try to use the click merely as a guide. I try to not be a slave to it, you know. Minor variations in tempo are a natural "human" part of music. Once I'm somewhat satisfied with my performance, I adjust the tempo track in Cubase to match those variations, so JS will be able to follow properly.
Then, as I start to "hear" how I want the drums to be played, I fireup JS, select a basic rythm pattern, adjust it to fit and turn JS loose for 2-6 play throughs of the tune. By that time, there's usually more than ample variations, fills, etc. to allow me to cut & paste stuff in the midi tracks created by JS.
This is the current MO that works for me.
KC
 _________________ Jamstix 1.X, Cubase SX3, WinTEL PC w/XP Home SP2(Native). |
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bobseekone Junior Jammer

Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi KC,
Thanks for your input. I haven't tried using tempo tracks in Cubase yet. I think trying that might give my tunes a less mechanized feel.
A question - do you export the MIDI track to Cubase and slice it up there, or do you try to use the arrangement pane on JS? I'm trying to figure out which works better for me and am wondering what others do.
Thanks! - Any others care to comment? |
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KennyC Jammer

Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Bob,
Actually, I don't "export" the midi. After I setup the arrangement in JS, I record the midi output of JS to tracks, then cut/paste/adjust to taste. Ummm, it's good!
KC
 _________________ Jamstix 1.X, Cubase SX3, WinTEL PC w/XP Home SP2(Native). |
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Voltago Jam Meister

Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I started with manual jam when I was new to Jamstix but now I use keyword jam most of the time. Then I use the rhythmns in the arranger, build the drums around the rest of the song and then finetune it. The arranger is my most liked feature  |
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Ron Garrison Jammer

Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 38
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| bobseekone wrote: |
A question - do you export the MIDI track to Cubase and slice it up there, or do you try to use the arrangement pane on JS? I'm trying to figure out which works better for me and am wondering what others do.
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I'm fairly new at this as well, but here is the approach I'm working with right now.
I started by searching through the many rhythms looking for one that fit my music. I played it in manual mode while laying down some guitar tracks. I went back to the arranger and added some new rhytms by copying the original rhythm. Then in the rhythm editor I modified the rhythms for the new rhythm entries. For instance I replaced the toms with hi-hats using similar velocities and replaced the snare with a side stick. This gave me a "light" version of the same basic rhythm. I have added fills here and there and I am quite pleased with how things are starting to turn out.
I will eventially record to midi (actually I have done this just to see how to do it) and tweak from there, but I like doing as much as I can in JamStix.
I am currently using JamStix paks, but will probably pick up BFD in the future and switch over to that.
Ron |
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