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notringo Jam Meister

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: Slowing Down Velocity for Quiet Part of Song |
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I have a bridge that requires a softer/quieter drum part. How do I program that into the arranger? The velocity slider seems to be global, is there a local setting you can use for a few bars?
Thanks for any help,
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Best way is to use an automation envelope in your host on the 'Velocity' parameter of Jamstix. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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notringo Jam Meister

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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Ralph! |
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Guitarfish Jamologist

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: |
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The title reminds me of a musical question I've been meaning to ask...
Back in the old days when I used to play (usually bass) in real time with real people in a real room, I seem to remember that the drummer and I would often subtly vary the tempo of the song. For example for something like notringo's 'quiet bridge', we would maybe have 'pulled back' the pace a bit, and then 'pushed' it back into a chorus. Or maybe slow down the last couple of bars and finish on a single quiet note /cymbal ping.
We didn't use a metronome or click to measure what we were actually doing, but that is how it 'felt'.
So do many of you jammers out there go to the trouble of creating a 'tempo track' (or whatever your particular sequencer calls it) to model subtle changes in pace, or do you set the BPM and leave it at that? |
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smudge Junior Jammer

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 18 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Guitarfish, know exactly what you mean, I spend ages tweaking tempo tracks to get push and pull in the right places, sometimes as many as 30 subtle tempo changes a song some less than 1 bpm but it all adds to the realism, also sometimes I have put a deliberate mistake in the drum track , nothing drastic but it does help it sound real.
Perhaps we need a switch in Jamstix = Sober, Merry, Ratass*d.
One problem im finding now is im reworking some old 8track/atari songs from the 80s with tempo changes programmed into the smpte box which i no longer have and its a real pain to line up the tempos. |
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Guitarfish Jamologist

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| smudge wrote: | Perhaps we need a switch in Jamstix = Sober, Merry, Ratass*d.
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For 'Ratass*d' you'd need a tempo track that increased steadily from the 1st chorus to about 230 bpm. Or was that just our drummer?  |
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MarkOne Junior Jammer

Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Guitarfish wrote: | | smudge wrote: | Perhaps we need a switch in Jamstix = Sober, Merry, Ratass*d.
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For 'Ratass*d' you'd need a tempo track that increased steadily from the 1st chorus to about 230 bpm. Or was that just our drummer?  |
LOL Been there, Done that, Had the T-Shirt shoved up my backside  |
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notringo Jam Meister

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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Guitarfish wrote: |
So do many of you jammers out there go to the trouble of creating a 'tempo track' (or whatever your particular sequencer calls it) to model subtle changes in pace, or do you set the BPM and leave it at that? |
The last song I did used a tempo track (build from a metronome wav file) to allow for changes and a drop-off at the end to allow a slow finish. Worked okay, but a pain to program. I'm hoping Jamstix will eventually put an end to that. |
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RichLum Jamologist

Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 142 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have a few songs where I've programmed in tempo changes in the host.
Both sudden tempo changes as well as ramped tempo changes.
Jamstix handles both well.
I don't do minor ones like smudge to get a more natural variance, but for me it's usually like slowing down for a bridge or the ending of a song, or different tempos between chorus and verse etc.
Ramping the tempo so it increases from one to another over 1 or 2 2 bars and also increasing the velocity slider over the same period works really well
Rich _________________ https://www.facebook.com/richard.lum.music |
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