Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[swayzak]

hi

My favourite drumming style is lush, cymbal-washed lazy jazz swing stuff....don't know if anyone has the Skalpel (Ninja Tunes label) album but that's exactly the sound I want !

Problem is I can't program drums for toffee

Looked for internet resources to help but not much luck.

Jamstix seems very promising (listened to the demo of the brush kit and that was pretty close to what I want).

How easy would it be to create my desired drums with Jamstix ?

Could I do it without a huge drum rompler (BFD etc.) e.g. with the drums supplied with Jamstix ?

I use 2 machines...a P3 800 with FLS 6, Energy XT, Reason 2.5 and Cubase VST 5.1.

My main studio has 2 x P4 machines, one being the main DAW running SX2, FLS, Reason 3, Abelton Live 5, Podium etc.....the other running Gigastudio 3.

thanks

swayzak

[Ralph [RZ]]

Send me a brief MP3 sample of a rhythm you have in mind to support at rayzoon.com and I can speak specifically as to how you would create something similar in Jamstix/BrushPak. You would not need BFD to do this.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[swayzak]

[Ralph [RZ]]

That's a neat groove you got there! Here is what I did in Jamstix: I took a single rhythm and clicked kick, snare and hihat/ride boxes to match your example groove as closely as possible. Your groove is multi-bar so normally I would create two patterns and then alternate them in the Jamstix arranger but for simplicity I left it at one bar. I added some additional kick drum notes that have low probability so they are only played once in awhile to stir things up a bit. I also added some double 16th and a triplet on the ride and told Jamstix to only play them once in a while. Same with cymbal probability which is quite high to get lots of cymbal actions. Unfortunately, Jamstix does not yet allow probabilities on the snare or I could have programmed some of those nice snare effects in your example. Instead, I set snare accents to about 30% chance to get something similar to it.

So, now I have a single pattern in Jamstix with lots of probabilities and the example below is what happens when Jamstix plays this single pattern. As you can see there is lots of changes going on in the cymbals the kick and the snare even though its a single pattern. That is the power of the Jamstix manual jam. You could now feed Jamstix MIDI or audio input and have the pattern velocity adjusted to your play level as well as automatic pattern reduction on very low volume levels.

http://www.rayzoon.com/swayzak.mp3

This demo uses the BrushPak and DrumPak #1 sounds. I also used the Maple Popcorn snare from our upcoming SnarePak.

I can send you a rhythm file if you want to try this with the Jamstix demo.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[swayzak]

That's very impressive !

I know it's a bit much to expect to be able to recreate this sort of live drumming from midi (and there are obvious differences - a lot probably due to samples & processing rather than the rhythmic component) but very good, nevertheless.

Can Jamstix create these sort of jazz grooves for people (like me !) - who kind of know what sound they want but with no background in drumming ?

How much drummer knowledge is required ?

Will version 2 be different / better in this regard ?

swayzak

[Ralph [RZ]]

[swayzak]

[Ralph [RZ]]

Here's the rhythm file from the MP3. It won't sound the same as the Jamstix demo has limited sounds but you can study the rhythm with it.

http://www.rayzoon.com/Swayzak.rrf

Simply copy to the 'rhythms' folder of the Jamstix demo directory and then start Jamstix and load 'Swayzak' in the rhythm tab.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[swayzak]

[Ralph [RZ]]