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One more time - LOVE THIS PRODUCT - but a triplet question
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: One more time - LOVE THIS PRODUCT - but a triplet question Reply with quote

Jamstix does not give me the syncopation I'm looking for in some of my material. The 16th before is too late, and the 16th after is WAY too late. I'm trying to get a triplet feel over 4/4 time, but I'm having problems. Is there any help out there?!?!?!?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sounds do you want to have the 3lerts on? There are triplet options for hihats in the hihat panel. Also, try the 16th shuffle option in the jam tab. If all fails, send me a brief MP3 of a sample rhythm and I'll see what I can do translating it into JS.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking for a triplet feel on the kick. I tried the 16th shuffle, but I'm a newbie and maybe didn't get it right. Although it's not the kind of music I'm looking for, but if you are at all familiar with the Latin dotted-quarter-note-on-the-bass type feel, that's the closest thing to where I'm going.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dotted 8th is not part of a triplet. Please give us an example MP3 or popular song reference or a notation.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a sample of where I'm going with this.

http://www.geocities.com/bin_spamed/Blessings_Cut.mp3
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricm9 wrote:
I'm looking for a triplet feel on the kick. I tried the 16th shuffle, but I'm a newbie and maybe didn't get it right. Although it's not the kind of music I'm looking for, but if you are at all familiar with the Latin dotted-quarter-note-on-the-bass type feel, that's the closest thing to where I'm going.


Listened to the MP3 you posted.


EDIT: Whoops wait, by the MP3 do you mean that's what you want, or that's what you're getting right now that you don't like? If the MP3 demo is what your aiming for, ignore the rest of my post. :P


The first kick note IS a dotted quarter note, but it has eighth note swing.

So right now basically the pattern is: (bold is where the kick hits, italicized is the snare hit)

||: 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 :||

The eighth note swing is pretty accentuated in this pattern. Are you looking more for a triplet feel that doesn't outline the swing? Maybe a pattern more like this?

Example 1:

||: 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 :||

Or something like this?

Example 2:

||: 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 :||
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MP3 IS what I'm going for, but can't get from JS. Can you help?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two keys to this rhythm:

a) It's a shuffle
b) The hats are playing triplets, not the kick

Here's a rhythm that approximates your MP3:
http://www.rayzoon.com/Ricm9.rrf

Just put it in your 'Rhythms' folder and load 'Ricm9'.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copied to the directory, but now how do I get JS to play it.

Sorry for being SUCH a newb.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. Go to the rhythm tab and click 'Load', then select 'Ricm9' from the list on the right.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, the Hi-hat is great, but the kick you sent wasn't quite there. I used the "before the beat" on the 3rd beat, and that was a LOT closer, but still was just a tad behind where I need it. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take another look at it on Monday and will get back to you.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get any progress?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies! I have been quite pre-occupied. I'll definitely look at this this weekend and will get back to you.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I double-checked your MP3 and the RRF file I posted and it is the same groove to me. Make sure you have 8th Shuffle checked (not 16th) and Jamstix 1.6.
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