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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

We'd like to foster the exchange of user-made rhythms. In the long run, we are aiming for an online database that interfaces with Jamstix for easy upload and download.

In the meantime, we'd like to collect user-made rhythms and release them periodically as free expansion packs.

If you have rhythms that you'd like to share with all of us, send the RRF file from your 'rhythms' folder to support @ rayzoon.com. Please include how your name should appear in the credits. Make sure to use the keyword feature in Jamstix to properly mark your creation.

Thank you!
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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QuadJojo · Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:15 am Post subject:

great idea ralph!
i really would like to see some kind of programm where it downloads all available rhytm names, that are online, and you can choose which ones to import into JS, just to have an overview, and also to be able to import more than one rythm at once..
that would be great Smile

maybe already added into js ?

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

That's what we're going for in the long run but we won't have that until Jamstix 2 next year.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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rv67 · Junior Jammer Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 17

yeah great. for the same reason of what I posted on http://rayzoon.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=767

RockMe · Jammer Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 38

This would be a "finger licking good" idea. lets go for it.

ZapAxe · Jam Meister Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 82

Ok, this may be a totally stupid question...and I oppologize ahead of time for getting a little OT...

But I'm guessing that these rhythms would be created from any method? Programmed? Played from keyboard? Played from an e-drum set?

Would they be categorized or labled as to HOW they were created?

I ask because I know of a guy (a drummer/keyboardist) who swore up and down that he could program drum rhythms on a keyboard just as he would play them on drums...That is till he bought an e-kit!
So I'm thinking that files done with an e-kit may have a better feel...Yes, I know some can program drums very well, but most can't imo.

And I don''t know what an RRF file is Confused

Is this unique to Jamstix?

Doc · Moderator Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

I don´t know if that would make a difference (the way of programming that is), because Jamstix is so different from any other way of drum programming that I´ve ever experienced.

You just tell Jamstix the basics of a rhythm (or extended basics for control freaks Smile

) and Jamstix will come up with something very unique, very human sounding, which includes all the alterations a human drummer could do with one single rhythm.

In my pre- Jamstix days (Roland machines, Battery, DFHS) I used to have to program lots of alterations of one single rhythm just to avoid to sound redundant. This is to a great extend no longer necessary.

.rrf is the proprietary Jamstix rhythm file format.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

ZapAxe · Jam Meister Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 82

Ah, I see... thanks guy's... I guess I have a lot to learn ... I was actually thinking that whatever creates the rhythm by 'any' means would be taken from a midi out...

Carry on my good men Smile

lion_tone · Jammer Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 27

Sounds like a great idea:) I'm really appreciative of the Developer/User relationship with this software...I hope other companies model themselves after Rayzoon.

paspallum · Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: What'd be really cool....

What'd be really cool is if some people out there were so good at programming... that they could grab a few CD albums and quickly copy some patterns from classic tracks....

This would be great if we want to write a song with a similar feel to a particular song or indeed we want to do a cover of a song.

Imagine a huge bank of drum patterns for songs by:

The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Rancid
Metallica
Bob Marley
Echo and the Bunneymen
Little Richard
Buddy Holly
Bod Dylan
The Clash
Neil Young
Sonic Youth
Dinosaur Jnr
Joan Jett
Bruce Springsteen
The White Stripes
Blink 182
Green Day

Etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Paspallum

timmyo · Jam Meister Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 66

paspallum · Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: Yeah

Yeah
I have thousands of them...
......but it'd be cool if someone progammed them with jamstix.. everything would match up nicer and quicker...

Paspallum

tombuur · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:48 am Post subject:

Yes, I too have a lot of midi files I'd like to convert to Jamstix format. I wish there was a utility for doing that. One that would take a GM file, then use channel 10 for input and somehow split up what is there in a few basic patterns and some fills. Probably it would require some manual editing of the converted patterns before finalizing.

I imagine using this for the midi backing tracks I already use, but improving the drumtrack by having Jamstix add its variations etc.

I know there is learn and import buttons, but I they are not they are only a step in this direction.

Anyway, I'd rather have JamBassist finished before this addition to Jamstix.

tombuur · Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:30 am Post subject:

I've spent a lot of the day playing with jamstix and converting rhythms. This has highlighted a couple of problems to me that need to be dealt with before expanding with a lot of user generated rhythms.

1. We need something more like different directories or rhythm banks.

The import function is very nice and works great, however, when jamstix recognizes a pattern as already existing it will not save. Or at most it will only allow one instance. Avoiding redundancy is fine, so pointing out a duplicate patterns is great. Still, you sometimes have variations over a pattern like country rock 1,2,3,4 .... Now, if country rock 3 clashes with heavy rock 2, for instance, I can only have one of them. But outlining a country song, I wouldn't go looking in heavy rock for that pattern that would otherwise fit with my country rock patterns ... So duplicates can sometimes be fine.

How to solve that? Could we have banks or directories that need to be selected first before loading?

2. What about fills?

I can't find any way to save fills. Some of the converted rhytm patterns are actually fills and it would be better to save them as such.

I know increasing the complexity of jamstix could be dangerous. But done in a way true to Windows directory system, I guess it would be okay to have a jamstix default directory for rythms and the any number of named directories the user may want for special styles, converted libraries etc.