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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: "Use arrangement" box. ?

After spending considerable time playing with the demo and diligently following the forum, I am now fully set up with the full version and ready to get some work done. I Spent time yesterday working on my first arrangement - and realize that I will probably have even more questions now that I'm actually going.

I'm not sure how I can just listen to a pattern in the rhythm tab without following the arrangement. I think I was doing this fine at first - creating rhythms, etc. no problem. I built and arrangement, locked most of it, and it seemed all of a sudden I couldn't listen to a rhythmm anymore becauses the play followed the arrangment instead of just playing the rhythm I was working on in the rhythm tab. I thought the "use arrangement" box in the arrangement window was the key, and that unchecking that would disconnect the arrangement and just play whatever rhythm was loaded. I thought that was working - but if it was , it's not anymore. It seems from the manual that box relates more to switching from freejam to manual jam. Thare must be a way to stop the arrrangement from playing and just listen to the rhythm I am working on.

What am I missing?

Geoff

Doc · Moderator Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

I think you have 2 options:

1. In keyword or manual jam you can load the respective rhythm in the rhythm tab.

2. Simply set a loop in your host of the bar that should be played by Jamstix (check USE ARRANGEMENT.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

There is a lock icon ion the rhythm tab to lock to the current pattern for editing purposes.
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

The lock icon in the rhythm tab is what you want to use.
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject:

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

We have a misunderstanding: there is is a lock icon in the rhythm tab (not the arranger) that is used to lock Jamstix into looping the current rhythm regardless of the arrangement.
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject:

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The Rhythm Tab - Section 10, Page 22
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject:

Thank you.

I am finding however that I must have the curser on a bar with that pattern in the arrangement. Does this make sense. In other words, I load a pattern in the rhythm window ( Play is stopped), I click on the lock icon and a pattern starts looping - but it is not the pattern I am looking at - the one whose name I have called up. The pattern that is playing is what ever bar the curser stopped at in the arranger. I have to go to the arranger, click on a bar that has the pattern I want to work on in order for that pattern to play in the rhythem tab. So when I load an new rhythem into my bank in the rhythm I can't play it at all because it is not in the arranger. Even when I click the lock icon - the rhythm that is being played is one from thte arrangement, not the one that is loaded in my rhythm tab. Again, I just get the feeling that this isn't the way it was when I was first using it and that something has changed.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

The lock in the rhythm tab is a new function that was recently added. We'll look into it.
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: "Use arrangement" box. ?

OK - I tried something. I opened a brand new arrangement in Cubase and started up Jamstixs. I started the first rhythm and let it play for a while. When I load a second rhythm and the first rhythm has already been played into the arranger, the rhythm immediately switches to the first when I press play. This makes sense I think, because jamsticks is playing the arrangement. HOWEVER, as soon as I uncheck the "use arrangement box" jamstix will play whatever rhytm is loaded. This also makes sense to me. so I loaded 3 different rhythms, spread them across the arrangement, and pressed play. Again, when I turn on the "use arrangement" box it plays the arrangement - whatever pattern is in the current bar. When I turn off the "use arrangement" box it plays the loaded rhythm repeatedly, regardless of where the curser is in the arrangement. This confirms what I said earlier.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

You lost me. Everything you said about 'Use Arrangement' is correct. There are other things affecting rhythm slot selection, including program changes in the host MIDI track. If you had a rhythm 'jump' on you with 'Use Arrangement' off, you may just want to use the lock icon in the rhythm tab to be safe.
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dinoman · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject:

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Use 'Save Bank' in your host and send me the FXB file to support[at]rayzoon.com
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