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[C_Holdz]

I Really liked Steinberg’s product, so after hearing a sample, I expanded my library of Groove Agent 5 SE’s Metal Essentials VST.

Sometimes you just find a kit that you love and like to reuse, and I thought Steinberg sounded as ferocious as Toontrack and XLN’s metal drum kits - Toontrack and XLN have great products, but it’s not what I want or need....like I want real sounding, but amazing sounding drums but I’m not a drummer or programmer that can wield such enormous libriares like BFD (350GB! Or even SD3 in its fullness its about 300gb as well, not to mention expansion packs like Death and Darkness).

Anyway, if anyone does metal drums, do you ever double up? I like to put a Jamstix Metal S kit with a GA5 Tears of Rage SE kit and record the midi/send the midi to the Groove AGent 5 along with simultaneous playing of the Jamstix internal kit

To me, it can enhance and fill in the parts that for some reason dont translate on “live recording” export....

Does anyone else use Jamstix AND another VST (with the input being Jamstix OUT?) to have double drum effect? If so, how do you like to configure it, 60-40, 70-30, 50-50???

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[jas_lan]

I have sent jamstix output to GA or Abbey Roads on occasion and only for metal or hard rock type tracks. And since Jamstix 4 I have been pretty happy with what I can get straight from Jamstix. Because you lose some of the articulations when sending output to other drum samplers, I find that since JS4, I don’t think the sound difference is worth the loss of realism due to losing the additional articulations and such. I do agree that GA has some great sounding kits though. I did buy that Metal Essentials Pack for GA when it was on sale but it still left me wanting more realism from fills accents and control of the grooves. So Jamstix is still unequalled in my opinion.
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[C_Holdz]

Absolutely Jamstix can run stand alone. I just seem to have an odd workflow combining the two. I also like to use GA5 just to jam or riff ideas without recording seriously or at all.(it has a decent jam mode)

I think Jamstix metal pak is the best metal drum VST there is , bar none-
Other great ones ofc are SSD4/5, XLN addictive 2, superior 3 (death and darkness , metal foundry, metal warehouse), BFD3 (the black album, sphere, crush, evil drums),Modo drums, and they sound incredible with their 300gb samples....BUT none of them have the AI, the brain, the “human feel”, that jamstix has and does it so well too.