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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregHolmes wrote:
Since there are free hosts that provide "record to WAV" capability (for example TobyBear MiniHost and even Plogue Bidule), I'm not sure that Jamstix needs it anytime soon.


Good point!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregHolmes, Zauni,

The problem with Chainer, MiniHost, Plogue Bidule, etc. is they record the COMBINED output from Jamstix and whatever is driving Jamstix, ie, a softsynth or whatever, and there is no way to separate the drums onto their own track. That's why it would be good to have a 'record to wave' function in Jamstix itself that would save just the drum portion as a .wav file. Again this is critical for people like me who do their mixing and mastering in Adobe Audition or other sequencer/multitrackers that don't accept VSTi's. I hope I'm being clear here. Thank you for your input.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GregHolmes, Zauni,

The problem with Chainer, MiniHost, Plogue Bidule, etc. is they record the COMBINED output from Jamstix and whatever is driving Jamstix, ie, a softsynth or whatever, and there is no way to separate the drums onto their own track. That's why it would be good to have a 'record to wave' function in Jamstix itself that would save just the drum portion as a .wav file. Again this is critical for people like me who do their mixing and mastering in Adobe Audition or other sequencer/multitrackers that don't accept VSTi's. I hope I'm being clear here. Thank you for your input.


Good point, too Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...

Plogue Bidule lets you put "Audio File Recorder" devices anywhere in the patchbay. I just made a setup with a MIDI file player feeding MIDI into Jamstix (in Free Jam) and also into a simple poly synth.

Then I added three File Recorders, right where they were needed:
- one for the total mix (stereo, drums plus synth)
- one for just Jamstix channel 1 (stereo, no ambience)
- one for just Jamstix channel 4 (stereo, ambience only)

I linked the three File Recorders so they all started and stopped recording at the same time, then started the MIDI player.

Voila! Three WAV files!

6% to 10% CPU utilization on the laptop while playing/recording.

Nevertheless, your point about adding WAV export into Jamstix is valid, but I just thought that Ralph didn't really need another thing on his list right now...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregHolmes wrote:

I linked the three File Recorders so they all started and stopped recording at the same time, then started the MIDI player.

Voila! Three WAV files!

Nevertheless, your point about adding WAV export into Jamstix is valid, but I just thought that Ralph didn't really need another thing on his list right now...


Good point again! Smile

Seriously, this is a neat work-around until we get 'Export Wave' going in Jamstix. Thanks a bunch, Greg!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks GregHolmes for the tip!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregHolmes wrote:
Well...

Nevertheless, your point about adding WAV export into Jamstix is valid, but I just thought that Ralph didn't really need another thing on his list right now...


Yeah, we can't have Ralph eliminating the need for a drummer and Plogue Bidule... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good work on Bidule method... an other way to go would be inside Chainer, along with TapeIT from Silverspike [you'd need to buy it to get the full version]... then you could have JS on Chainer channel 1 with one instance of TapeIT under it... and have the same on other Chainer channels for other vsti's. I think you could arrive at some compex mixes of a live session in chainer by also having something like this:

in channel 1, at top, load one vsti instrument and under it put a send, set the send to channel 8 at 100% and put a Tapeit on channel 8
back on channel one, under the Send to 8 insert an Input. below that load JS with another Send to 9 under it... put another TapeIt on 9

so on an so forth...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, thanks max!! I'll try this, seeing as how I already use Chainer and am relatively familiar with it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zauni... I am now wondering if it might be handy to put a MIDI LEARN rt clk function on the Velocity Lock? You know, so taping a key or the assigned midi controler would toggle it on and off...

I can see how this would nice to have and avoid using the mouse to do it..
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

max wrote:
Zauni... I am now wondering if it might be handy to put a MIDI LEARN rt clk function on the Velocity Lock? You know, so taping a key or the assigned midi controler would toggle it on and off...

I can see how this would nice to have and avoid using the mouse to do it..


Sounds good.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panther wrote:
GregHolmes, Zauni,

The problem with Chainer, MiniHost, Plogue Bidule, etc. is they record the COMBINED output from Jamstix and whatever is driving Jamstix, ie, a softsynth or whatever, and there is no way to separate the drums onto their own track. That's why it would be good to have a 'record to wave' function in Jamstix itself that would save just the drum portion as a .wav file. Again this is critical for people like me who do their mixing and mastering in Adobe Audition or other sequencer/multitrackers that don't accept VSTi's. I hope I'm being clear here. Thank you for your input.

Have you tried out Voxengo Recorder, it.s free and act as a VST plugin

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds good


thanks Zauni I'll watch for it in ...ummm X-14? 15? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds good


thanks Zauni I'll watch for it in ...ummm X-14? 15? Smile


No, it will be X4-1 Smile We are getting ready to release X3-13 as Jamstix 1.2 next week.
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