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vsukpadman
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: new user- phasing issue Reply with quote

Hi there ..

new user with the product running it wrapped as Rtas in PTools.7.3

I am having an issue of what sounds like double hits producing a phasey effect.

Now this is with a very simple setup..Drumstix is on a PT instrument track, and all I am doing is running the transport with jamstix in manual jam mode.

I have chosen the simplest rhythm (16th rock) with every slider and complex setting turned down in the rhythm page.
I cant seem to get what amounts to straight playing without odd double hits or phasey sounds..

any ideas?..im sure its simple Smile

cheers

Bill P
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello. This happens to me when I set JS as a midi input and as a midi output. But I use Cubase SX, don't know about PT. Maybe Ralph can help you more.

Willy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncheck 'Play Input' in the jam tab and see if it helps.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ralph,

sadly that makes no difference..its really odd !
Definate double hits and phasing even with everything as simplified as I can get it.
Im down to just hihats now for example, and can clearly hear it.
Out of interest, I have even tried setting Ptools to NO midi in or out on the jamstix channel...same thing !

any other thoughts?

many thanks

Bill P
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had double-hits with an early beta version of the VST/RTAS wrapper but it went away with later versions. What version of the wrapper are you using?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Again

2.11 Fxpansion Wrapper - Protools 7.3.1
Im pretty sure that is the most current wrapper
Im being VERy thorough here now , and realy paring all optons on jamstix down to nothing....still the same..gotta be something simple LOLOL

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My suspicion is that the song positioning info sent from the wrapper to Jamstix is not precise, leading to double execution of notes. Could you do this:

- open jamstix.ini in the Jamstix folder and add these lines anywhere in the [General] section:

Logging=1
FullLog=1

- save the file and run Jamstix a bit (10 bars or so) letting it play double hits

- send me the rzdlog.txt from the Jamstix folder
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph

sent- along with an example Mp3 of it phasing

good luck!- appreciate the help

Bill P
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also a new user and have this exact same issue.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure Ralph will fill you in , but after me sending back and forward various examples and files and trying out some changes , with some EXCELLENT support from Ralph, it would appear that for me it is an issue with the VST-RTAS wrapper, and protools buffer settings.
As I say Ralph will explain Im sure, but rest assured he is trying to fix it as we speak..
Again..great service ...and much appreciated !

hope that helps!
Bill P
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoundHouseTup: Yes, there is some issue with Jamstix in PT7 that appears to be related to reported buffer sizes and the song positioning data. We do have a fix for the phasing issue that will be in the next update. If you send me an e-mail, I will reply back with a beta DLL. Beyond the phasing, there are still some double-hit issues as well that we are still trying to work-around.

For all non-PT users:This is all PT7/Wrapper related and does not occur in other hosts.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!!
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