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inigo montoya · Junior Jammer Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 10

I noticed that some of my BFD kits (for example a particular cymbal within a kit) will be panned almost all the way to one side. When I try to correct this within the BFD mixer, it does not correct.
I'm running BFD within Jamstix within Cubase SX3.
I had read somewhere about putting in the ini. file "StereoOutputs=0". What does that do? Any downsides to doing that? I'm not understanding.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

By default, all Jamstix outputs are stereo. When you add 'StereoOutputs=1' to the ini file,you switch them to mono so that subhosted modules with mono outputs can be panned properly. No downside to it.
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inigo montoya · Junior Jammer Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 10

I'm a little confused here. I've gone into the "Configuration Settings" file and tried and saved three different settings.
I first tried StereoOutputs=0, then StereoOutputs=1, and finally StereoOutputs=2
For each of those config settings, I had no ability to pan any drum within BFD using the pan knobs in BFD.
Currently, I have no way to control panning. What am I missing here?
Thanks.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Mono channels in BFD cannot be panned. A mono channel can only be panned when it is mixed into a stereo return, which occurs not within BFD but the host istelf so you would pan there.
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inigo montoya · Junior Jammer Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 10

Whenever I tried panning the main track using the Jamstix tracks created in Cubase SX3 in the Jamstix mapmode preset BFD All, it did not work properly. For example, Cymbal 1 was panning automatically to one side (the left I think). When I panned the Cubase track for Cymbal 1 to the right (trying to get Cymbal 1 in the middle of the field), the sound was less prominent (as if I was only hearing an overhead sound of the cymbal). I'm still unclear why I could not get this working properly.
For now, I have a workaround by running MIDI from my Jamstix track to another MIDI track (with MIDI in as Jamstix and MIDI Out as BFD All) and using BFD All tracks in Cubase SX3 to pan. Seems to work just fine, but requires a couple extra steps to set up.

KennyC · Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

Inigo,

Are you supposed to be able to pan individual cymbals in BFD?

I know I can't pan individual cymbals (within a kit context) with DFH Superior. Here's why... cymbals aren't (typically) individually mic'd for recording. They're recorded through the overheads and ambience mic pairs. Therefore, as stereo images, when we pan -- we're only balancing the stereo sound field. Again, that's with DFH Superior. Perhaps it's different with BFD.

KC
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inigo montoya · Junior Jammer Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 10

Good point, Kenny. I'll check. I think I was only using the cymbal theoretically. I couldn't pan the snare either. Odd thing is that I could not unpan the cymbal even when changing the StereoOutputs settings. I'd like anyone else to confirm that they have been able to pan the snare or get cymbals that aren't panned excessively, using BFD within Jamstix.

ProfRhino · Grand Master Jam Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 230

inigo montoya,
is there a good reason why you're using BFD inside of JS instead of triggering it extermally ?
I'm asking because I've been working that way with Superior and other drum samplers ever since I picked up JS .
It's completely painless in SX and somehow it's easier for me to understand without that extra layer of complexity you're dealing with atm.
I'm much more flexible that way, can record JS's output on a MIDI track and edit it and so on. And then I can switch between JS's sounds, Superior and whatever simply by soloing groups and so find out what suits the track better.
Worth a try at least, imho.
Cheers, Rhino

andrewwright67 · Jamologist Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 154

I agree Rhino! Midi out is the easy option.

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inigo montoya · Junior Jammer Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 10

Doing that now, Rhino. Routed MIDI to another track with BFD on that track.
I notice that when doing the free jamming, despite relatively low CPU consumptions (15-20%) on a very powerful Dual Core, I will get an occasional (once per minute) snap/crackle/pop, as if the computer is calculating or something. I have heard this with the plug-in in Cubase SX3 and Live 5. I haven't had that using any other plug-in.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332